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Public Testimony

Jose Gonzalez testifies on Resolution 27

New York City Council · Sep 28, 2026 · starts 5:10:01 · 3 min 14 sec

Jose Gonzalez, senior director at New York Communities for Change, testifies in support of Resolution 27. He explains the history of champerty and how the bill would reinstate protections against predatory creditors.

Alexa Avilés

Next, we're going to have Jose Gonzalez.

Alexa Avilés

You may begin.

Alexa Avilés

Jose, you are still on mute.

Alexa Avilés

Jose, if you're speaking, we cannot hear you, but it seems that you are not on mute right now.

Alexa Avilés

Okay.

Alexa Avilés

So we're going to swing back.

Alexa Avilés

Oh, Jose is there.

Alexa Avilés

Okay.

Alexa Avilés

I'm sorry.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Is it my turn?

Alexa Avilés

Yes.

Alexa Avilés

Yes, please.

Alexa Avilés

Go ahead, Jose.

Alexa Avilés

We're ready for you.

Alexa Avilés

Jose Gonzalez, please begin.

Alexa Avilés

I don't think he hears me.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

I'm going to start.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Deputy Speaker Williams, Council Member Aviles, members of the City Council, buenas tardes.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Thank you for listening to my testimony on Resolution 27.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

My name is Jose Gonzalez.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

I'm a senior director and researcher at New York Communities for Change, NYCC.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

NYCC is a 20,000 member New York economic and social justice organization.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Since 2018 or so, I have worked with a coalition of other New York nonprofits on a Wall Street accountability campaign connected to the Puerto Rico debt crisis.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Our work has led to a package of legislation that includes the reinstatement of charity, a law that stretches back a century that prevented creditors from abusing the court systems, and is one of the few legal protectionist countries in financial trouble had access to until 2004.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Buying the debt of a country in economic distress to extract profits by endlessly litigating should be and was illegal until 2004.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Debt relief organizations, the investor community, and government all agree this situation allows creditors of this category of debt to opportunistic debt to opportunistic debt.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

take advantage of an anomaly in the law.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Our narrow change in this pre-existing law ameliorates the effects of leaving countries disproportionately vulnerable to exploitative creditors because they did not have the same protections others were eligible for.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

And most people see as an egregious abuse of the judicial process.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Nations default under New York law must also deal with the 9% interest of their debt, a number established in an era of much higher rates.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

That payment starts right away and goes directly to the litigator until the judgment is arrived at, giving the litigious creditor a perverse incentive to prolong the situation.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

This revised bill would also reduce this antiquated rate to a current and fair level.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

And your communities are changing.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

We are ultimately grateful to our members from the Puerto Rican diaspora who led the charge on this campaign because it is their experiences that has given us and gives us the motivation to persevere through years of challenges to arrive at this moment when we can see the light at the end of a long tunnel.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

New York has the power to reinstate champion and give back a tool that creates stability for countries.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

The New York bond market and holds vulture funds accountable.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Your support of this legislation is appreciated and important.

Member of the Public - Jose Gonzalez

Thank you again for your time and consideration on this matter.

Alexa Avilés

Thank you so much, Jose, for your testimony.