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Dinowitz presses for target populations; Holland cites vertical transfer students

New York City Council · Sep 29, 2026 · starts 1:00:37 · 1 min 29 sec

Dinowitz asks what groups CUNY wants to reach. Holland identifies vertical transfer students as a major target and says they face mindset and academic integration barriers, including fewer electives and difficulty fitting study abroad into degree plans.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

At this point, no.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

I think...

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

That would have to be a conversation with each of those programs.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

I would like to see a higher participation of the underrepresented groups, and I think through that we are going to...

Eric Dinowitz

What are those?

Eric Dinowitz

Can you give an example of what those groups are?

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

I think by our vertical transfer students are a major group, and that's something that we can target directly by looking at the obstacles those students face.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

In addition to the mindset,

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

obstacles that these students often face.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

We also see them having a greater barrier when it comes to academic integration of these opportunities because they tend to have fewer electives available and that does make it harder to study abroad when you have less room in your schedule.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

So we need to offer programs that have more courses that fit into their degree plans.

Eric Dinowitz

So it sounds like you have

Eric Dinowitz

The concept of a plan for a goal.

Eric Dinowitz

But it also sounds like you do actually have like a target population where setting a goal

Eric Dinowitz

would actually be helpful, even in the raising, you know, the money element as Councilmember Brewer was referencing.

Eric Dinowitz

And so you asked for ideas besides asking the council for money, which we always love to give CUNY.

Eric Dinowitz

I think setting goals for particular populations lends itself to a better sales pitch for other outside funding or even government funding.