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Cahill declines to quantify risk, offers follow-up

New York City Council · Oct 5, 2026 · starts 1:34:31 · 1 min 24 sec

Menin asks Shane Cahill of Meta to quantify risk. Cahill says he doesn't have Meta's framework in front of him and offers to follow up, prompting Menin to call it troubling that companies can't quantify risk given the stakes.

Julie Menin

And then I'm now going to turn to Mr.

Julie Menin

Cahill for the response to that first question on quantifying the risk.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

Speaker, thank you very much for the question.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

First off, we're committed at Meta to building AI safely.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

We have a multi-layered approach to this, where teams evaluate before deployment, including adversarial testing, applying safeguards, and deploying when only risks are mitigated.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

We set this out in our public meta superintelligence scaling framework and our preparedness reports that go alongside the release of models.

Julie Menin

So can you quantify what the risk is or you're not able to do that?

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

Speaker, I don't wish to be imprecise in relation to the question of quantifying.

Member of the Public - Shane Cahill

I don't have our framework in front of me right now, but I'd be pleased to follow up with you afterwards.

Julie Menin

Okay.

Julie Menin

It's just...

Julie Menin

Given the serious safety risks that have been raised here, to not be able to quantify what the risk is, is troubling at best.

Julie Menin

I'm going to now move on lastly to Ms.

Julie Menin

Friend.