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Coxon and Turner rebut the China-race framing

New York City Council · Oct 5, 2026 · starts 0:43:51 · 1 min 51 sec

Coxon calls the expectation of a U.S.-China race the heart of the issue and says a global agreement not to pursue recursive self-improvement is key. Turner says many actions wouldn't slow us down and calls the China dichotomy false, since misaligned AI is everyone's adversary.

Julie Menin

Okay, Mr.

Julie Menin

Coxon.

Member of the Public - Jacob Coxon

Yeah, I can add that to my mind, the core of the whole issue is the expectation of a global race to recursive self-improvement within the next few years, in particular between U.S.

Member of the Public - Jacob Coxon

And China.

Member of the Public - Jacob Coxon

I think this is like the heart of the issue.

Member of the Public - Jacob Coxon

I also think expectation of this race is a motivating factor in leadership of these companies.

Member of the Public - Jacob Coxon

Working to head straight for recursive self-improvement.

Member of the Public - Jacob Coxon

And I think some sort of agreement globally about not entering that state of affairs is basically the key to the whole situation.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

Okay.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

And Mr.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

Turner?

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

First of all, I would state that there are many actions we can take which would not slow us down in any potential race.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

These transparency mechanisms, independent evaluation, reporting requirements, whistleblower protections.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

But second, I think there's often

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

It's at least a false dichotomy because China is not our only potential adversary.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

With a reasonably high chance, we are racing to build and grow our own adversary here at home, which is misaligned AI.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

Misaligned AI is everyone's adversary, including...

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

Our own and one day maybe more powerful than China.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

So we cannot beat China by racing to build AI that we don't, we control or understand because it might end up being our adversary itself.

Member of the Public - Jacob Coxon

If I may actually add.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

Yeah.