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Public Testimony

Kokotajlo recommends transparency and slowing recursive self-improvement

New York City Council · Oct 5, 2026 · starts 0:27:31 · 1 min 19 sec

Kokotajlo calls automating AI research a recipe for disaster and offers two policy recommendations: massively increase transparency into the AI industry and slow the frontier race toward recursive self-improvement, ideally banning it.

Member of the Public - Daniel Kokotajlo

To quote Dan Selsa again, that capabilities researcher that I cited earlier, models will increasingly seem aligned even when they are not.

Member of the Public - Daniel Kokotajlo

If the AI companies automate AI research and development process, that means they'll be putting AIs in charge of making the AIs that make the AIs that make the AIs that will transform the economy, talk to us every day, and integrate into our military.

Member of the Public - Daniel Kokotajlo

This is a recipe for disaster.

Member of the Public - Daniel Kokotajlo

My two policy recommendations, I'll be very brief.

Member of the Public - Daniel Kokotajlo

One is that we need to massively increase transparency into the AI industry.

Member of the Public - Daniel Kokotajlo

And two is basically we need to slow down the frontier AI companies race towards recursive self-improvement.

Member of the Public - Daniel Kokotajlo

Frankly, I would say they just shouldn't be allowed to do recursive self-improvement, but at least we should slow down their ongoing process of training AIs to automate the AI research process itself.

Member of the Public - Daniel Kokotajlo

And instead, they should be required to redirect resources towards other things, such as serving customers or beneficial deployments or other types of research.

Member of the Public - Daniel Kokotajlo

Thank you.

Julie Menin

Thank you very much.

Julie Menin

And now we are going to hear from Alex Turner.

Julie Menin

And as I wrote,

Julie Menin

Read into the record, the council has issued a subpoena for Mr.

Julie Menin

Turner's appearance, and we very much thank him for being here.

Julie Menin

Mr.

Julie Menin

Turner.