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Turner on California SB 53 and mandatory self-hack reporting

New York City Council · Oct 5, 2026 · starts 0:39:20 · 52 sec

Turner says California's SB 53 addresses catastrophic risk reporting but likely wouldn't have covered the Hugging Face incident. He proposes mandatory reporting when a company's own systems hack its own infrastructure.

Julie Menin

Mr.

Julie Menin

Turner?

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

I would.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

So I would add California has SB 53 governing reporting on reporting catastrophic risks defined as at least a billion dollars to manage or a certain number of potential lives lost.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

Fortunately, it's not clear whether this would have required reporting anything related to Hugging Face, for example.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

I think the internal loss of control of these systems, having an AI that

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

hacks the company itself in an important sense, it's not told to do so, but during training, during evaluation, during deployment to customers, hacks the company's own infrastructure.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

Making reporting that mandatory to the city.

Member of the Public - Alex Turner

I think that would be quite strong and it would cover basically all of the recent incidents.