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Winter describes agency disconnect and per-minute rip-offs

New York City Council · Oct 7, 2026 · starts 1:34:54 · 1 min 54 sec

Winter says each agency does its job but lacks connectivity, so enforcement is canceled out. He describes a 'gold rush' where unlicensed drivers charge per-minute, per-person rates of $9–$25 and use lights and sound to distract customers.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

Every agency that has participated in trying to do enforcement has done an excellent job within their own field.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

The problem is that because of that disconnect, sometimes the work of one agency is canceled out by another.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

And so because there is no real...

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

Connectivity there.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

Also, I should mention that a lot of the reason why a lot of these guys do this is because it's really the almighty dollar.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

It's become like the new gold rush when it comes to the pedicab industry because they tell other people to come down to New York City and do this.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

65 million visitors, 42 million to the park, plenty of people you can rip off.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

Some of the people that I've encountered on the street have been bragging about how much they make.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

They almost want to tell you how much they're making.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

The reason why is because they can do these 15, 20-minute rides and nail the customer and disappear into the mist.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

These rip-offs don't really happen much in the park, although we've discovered there's a few bad actors in the park as well.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

But the reason why is because the park is structured, so it doesn't make sense for them.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

us to charge on these per minute rates.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

So most of us, we charge flat fees.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

But the guys on the street, they're abusing the system, given that they can charge whatever they want.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

It's a per minute per ride thing.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

But no one's putting these signs on the sides of the bike.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

And when they are, they're very tiny, black on red, black on gray, very tiny little lettering.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

And they're deceptive.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

Or they just simply pull out a rate card at the end of the ride.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

That's also part of the reason for the lights and sound.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

The lights and sound is to attract and then distract.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

They get you into the bike, looks like fun.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

You come to the end of the ride and all of a sudden it's per minute per person, $9 to $25 a minute per person.

Member of the Public - Kenneth Winter

And this is part of the reason why I feel that a price cap might also help with that maximum rate that will allow the customer to eventually have consumer confidence again, knowing that they're not going to be charged more than this particular rate per ride.