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Menin asks about independent evaluators free of conflicts

New York City Council · Oct 16, 2026 · starts 0:23:38 · 1 min 31 sec

Menin asks whether SpaceX AI uses financially independent evaluators with no ties to the company before deploying dangerous models; Castillo-Madrid cites White House accord commitments to internal controls and independent external evaluators but does not name any auditors.

Julie Menin

Does SpaceX AI use financially independent evaluators that do not have any direct or indirect financial ties to the company before testing or deploying a potentially dangerous AI model?

Member of the Public - Gabriela Castillo Madrid

As part of the White House accord, we agreed on certain agreements.

Member of the Public - Gabriela Castillo Madrid

Company responsibility is one of them, internal controls, internal oversight team, and independent external evaluators is one of them as well, as well as board level oversight.

Julie Menin

I guess yes or no, are there independent third-party validators who are validating, who are free from any conflict of interest?

Julie Menin

who are validating the new models.

Member of the Public - Gabriela Castillo Madrid

We're working on partnerships with independent external auditors or evaluators to assess model capabilities, controls, and safeguards.

Julie Menin

And are you going to be disclosing who those auditors are?

Member of the Public - Gabriela Castillo Madrid

That's not up to me, but I'll make sure that I'll get an answer for you.

Julie Menin

Again, I think, you know, the idea that there is self-regulation is not something that is making people feel comfortable at all.

Julie Menin

And so as a most rudimentary measure to have independent third party.

Julie Menin

Validators who are free from conflict of interest, which is actually what one of our bills exactly does, is something that we believe you should be able to answer.