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De La Rosa challenges subway competition criteria and urges equity

New York City Council · Oct 20, 2026 · starts 1:30:57 · 3 min 24 sec

De La Rosa says the A train is not always functional; Wong says the vision study considers non-commuter and weekend service models; De La Rosa urges an equity lens.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

And two, do you all plan to change this criteria that, you know, we're in competition with the subways?

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Because that's always going to be there, right?

Carmen N. De La Rosa

We're always going to have the A train, the one train, and we're lucky because we're hearing from council members that have no trains.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

But that doesn't mean that the A train at the last stop is functional.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

It doesn't mean that it's the best effective way to get anywhere.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

And it also means that any blockages that happen from the first stop to the last stop where my community is impacts ridership and impacts the economy.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

experience, right?

Carmen N. De La Rosa

So is there any plans to change the criteria at this time?

James Wong

Thank you, Councilmember, and thank you for your ongoing advocacy and willingness to work with us and talk through these items.

James Wong

Yes, absolutely that we are looking, as I've said, with a fresh set of eyes on many of the opportunities that have been raised, not only through these bills, but many other landings from which we've heard advocacy from different communities.

James Wong

As it relates to areas in Upper Manhattan, including at the end of Dyckman, and also parts along the Harlem River, we are taking a look because we want to, as I have mentioned, looking at this in a way that's not just our regular NYC ferry service is helpful.

James Wong

It helps us to allow us to be more creative in how we would provide service.

James Wong

I think that while the idea of ferry is great and people sort of

James Wong

click onto it, one of the things we also know is that people are looking for ways to connect with their waterfront.

James Wong

People are looking for a waterfront transit option, which maybe isn't to get to work every day, but maybe on nice days, it's to go on a nice ride along the river.

James Wong

Maybe it's to get to Midtown or Lower Manhattan on a weekend.

James Wong

And I think that our ability through the vision study to take into account some of those different operating models, which are often much less expensive to operate, gives us a lot more opportunity to explore some of them.

James Wong

So I think that what's different now, and I take the question seriously, you know, we've done two, almost three citywide ferry studies.

James Wong

When you look back over the last 15 years, what is different?

James Wong

Looking at this not only as a seven-day commuter, seven-day week, 365-day, all the time commuter-based service.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Yeah.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

I will also say that, you know, these maps break my heart.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Like, whether it's the New York City tourism map that thinks that Manhattan ends at 96th Street, or it's the ferry map that forgets that, you know, between the Bronx and lower Manhattan, we have the wonderful upper Manhattan

Carmen N. De La Rosa

corridors or parts of the Bronx that are disconnected.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

It breaks our heart because we have a lot of communities, a lot of businesses that are depending on that economic activity.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

And some of the hardest hit communities that have, you know, suffered through this pandemic, we have some of the largest closure rates for our small businesses.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

A ferry could really transform the economic activity in a community, and it could really bring with it jobs and a transformational experience, as I'm sure you all believe, because if not, you wouldn't be doing this work.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

But I urge you to look at this map with a lens of equity.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Where are there disconnections that we should be filling in those gaps?

Carmen N. De La Rosa

And I'm a partner, and I know that we all are here to help you figure that out.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

And, you know, we have a budget process.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

We can help figure out where the funds come from.

James Wong

Thank you.

Carmen N. De La Rosa

Thank you.