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Public Testimony

Williams describes 25-minute cross-borough response times

New York City Council · Oct 20, 2026 · starts 3:50:03 · 4 min 15 sec

Gerardney Williams, an Army veteran and paramedic, describes starting in East 86th Street and responding to East Houston Street and 121st Street with 25-minute ETAs. He says fire, police, and MTA workers all wait for ambulances, and hospitals are pulling ambulances out of the 911 system because they are not profitable.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

How you doing?

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

My name is Gerardney Williams.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

I'm a United States Army veteran, former New York City correction officer, and a current New York City paramedic.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

I just want to start by giving a rundown on how severe response times are because of lack of staffing.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

So I work on an ambulance on East 86th Street and Lexington Avenue.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

And when I log on, my first caller tonight is on East Houston Street.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

So to go from East 86 to East Houston Street is a 25-minute ETA.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

25.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

25 minutes for an unconscious patient on the bus.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

So now the bus driver has to pull over, get rid of everybody on the bus, and wait for an ambulance to get there.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

We get there, the patient's seizing, we stop it, we get them to the hospital.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

After we clear the hospital, we get another call, 121st and 1st for domestic violence.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

From East Houston to 121st and 1st, another 25-minute ETA.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

The police department is there.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

They can't clear the scene until the ambulance gets there.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

So now the MTA workers waiting for us, the police officers waiting for us.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

We assess that patient.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

She refuses.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

We get to the next call.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

The next call.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

Old lady fell down, hit her head.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

The fire engine gets there.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

fire engines waiting for us to clear the patient.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

So all of these response times are, they all work together.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

So a fire is waiting for us, PD is waiting for us, MTA is waiting for us.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

If you ever had to exit a train because you have a sick passenger, they're waiting for an ambulance.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

All of this makes the city less efficient.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

We have 6,000, at least 6,000 calls a day.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

That's the equivalent of what we had on 9-11, what we experienced during COVID.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

We're receiving those calls every day.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

We're in dire need of more ambulances on the street.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

In the meantime, along with the staffing issues going on with FDNY EMS, you have hospitals who contribute to the 911 system who are pulling ambulances out of the system because it's not profitable for them.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

Hospitals are pulling ambulances out of their EMS system because it's not profitable for them.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

I happen to work for one who pulled three ambulances out last year, got rid of the staff, laid them off, lost three ambulances from the Upper West Side, very busy area.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

This is the biggest city in the world, and we're asking for mutual aid for ambulances.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

This is shameful.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

This is extremely shameful.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

While I appreciate the help, the mutual aid, I think that's so...

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

One, I think it's union busting also, but that's another topic.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

But for us to ask for mutual aid, it's shameful.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

The chief earlier mentioned the closure of hospital units, and I think it's a very important piece of this EMS thing we do here.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

Like he said, we do one-third of the calls in the city, but with the staff decreasing, we're doing more and more and more and more and responding to more calls out of our area, which is increasing response times.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

My ambulance sits on the Upper East Side.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

I'm responding to calls in East Harlem, Washington Heights.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

Soho, Chinatown, the Bronx.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

The response times are ridiculous.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

Today you heard two separate stories of two children being delayed care.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

Children in our city being delayed care because there are no EMS, there are no ambulances, there are no paramedics, there are no EMTs to respond to these calls.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

And I think it's just extremely important that we address the issues, FDNY pay issues, but also hospitals pulling ambulances out of the system, which is ridiculous.

Member of the Public - Gerardney Williams

Hospitals, billion-dollar hospitals who have money to build new buildings in these neighborhoods, but somehow don't have the money to continue EMS services.

Mercedes Narcisse

I think we spoke a little bit about that, the hospital closure and all this pulling ambulance is not right to the, yeah, absolutely.

Mercedes Narcisse

We hear you.

Mercedes Narcisse

Thank you.