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Public Testimony

Glenn Avery of BANI opposes bus inclusion in idling enforcement

New York City Council · Oct 20, 2026 · starts 2:48:13 · 2 min 31 sec

Avery says private motor coaches are subject to citizen enforcement while public transit buses are not. He argues modern coaches need engines for safety and passenger comfort and opposes Intro 11-A's higher fines.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

Yes, thank you, Chair Gennaro.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

Yeah, I'm Glenn Avery.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

I'm president of the Bus Association of New York.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

We're also known as BANI.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

And we've been around as an organization since 1938.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

And we're proud to advocate on behalf of private bus operators and the public.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

The riding public that they serve.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

Banning is opposed to the inclusion of motor coaches under the anti-idling restrictions under the Citizens Air Complaint Program.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

Unlike the buses operated by our members, public transit buses are not subject to enforcement under the Citizens Air Complaint Program.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

They use the same equipment.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

They have the same compliance difficulties that our members have.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

So the net result is that private operators who have far fewer buses on New York City streets than public transit are the only target of enforcement against buses.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

This is revenue generation, not sound environmental policy.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

Modern motor coaches are designed with a main diesel engine that only provides for the propulsion of the vehicle, but also power safety,

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

the HVA system, environmental, electrical, and other systems that are necessary for the safe operation of the vehicle, the health and well-being of passengers, and the protection of the environment.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

Until technology develops to the point where that fundamental design can be changed, compliance with the three-minute rule can be very difficult.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

We are not advocates for unlimited or unnecessary idling.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

To the contrary, our members, they don't want to waste fuel.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

They don't condone that.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

I would like to just kind of jump off my script if I could.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

Yeah, sure.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

To address a specific request that you made that we talk about specifics about 11.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

We are opposed to intro 11A.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

The increasing of fines is of little additional deterrence value.

Member of the Public - Glenn Avery

The fines are already at a level where motor coach operators are choosing to avoid New York City.

Member of the Public

May I continue?

Member of the Public

I just said two other points.

James F. Gennaro

Sure.

James F. Gennaro

Why don't we just finish the panel, and I'm formulating a question for you.

Member of the Public

Thank you.

James F. Gennaro

Sure.

James F. Gennaro

Patrick, right?

James F. Gennaro

Patrick.