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Council Member Gennaro argues horse carriage industry has clean safety record

New York City Council · Oct 22, 2026 · starts 0:51:59 · 2 min 11 sec

Council Member James Gennaro argues that in the 168-year history of the horse carriage industry, no driver has ever had their license revoked or been convicted of animal cruelty. He criticizes the rush to judgment and calls for an oversight hearing instead of a ban.

Shaun Abreu

Thank you, Councilmember Gennaro, followed by Lewis.

James F. Gennaro

Thank you very much, Mr.

James F. Gennaro

Majority Leader, and I apologize for being indisposed, if you will.

James F. Gennaro

I think it's important to put on the record, I sent this in an email to everyone yesterday, that I don't think everyone really knows this.

James F. Gennaro

That in the 168-year history of the industry, not one person in this industry has ever been convicted of animal cruelty in the entire history of the industry.

James F. Gennaro

Not one driver in the history of the industry has ever had his or her horse carriage driver's license revoked or even suspended.

James F. Gennaro

Not one horse carriage medallion owner in the history of the industry has ever had his or her medallion.

James F. Gennaro

revoked or even suspended.

James F. Gennaro

And, you know, much has been made of recent incidents that have happened with the carriage industry last year, year and a half, whatever it is, but the same number of incidents are always talked about.

James F. Gennaro

I think what people fail to understand, and this did not come up in our deliberations,

James F. Gennaro

was that every single one of those incidents, both in the last year and from the beginning of the industry, have been investigated by the regulators.

James F. Gennaro

And the incidents that are getting the most attention have all been investigated.

James F. Gennaro

By the New York City Police Department Mountain Unit and the Department of Health.

James F. Gennaro

In all of these incidents, there was not even the issuance of a ticket because

James F. Gennaro

it didn't rise to that level based on the investigation of the authorities that made that call.

James F. Gennaro

I think if the council were really interested in figuring out how to do things better and to challenge the police department and to challenge the health department, we should have an oversight hearing that talks about that stuff and we can figure out how to go forward.

James F. Gennaro

But this whole notion that these incidents are the end of the world, they're bad, but...

James F. Gennaro

Thank you, Council Member.

James F. Gennaro

Yes.

Shaun Abreu

I appreciate that.