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Council Member Gennaro explains no vote on horse carriage and COPA

New York City Council · Oct 22, 2026 · starts 1:31:39 · 2 min 51 sec

Council Member James Gennaro explains his no vote on Intro 943A and 905A. He discusses the difficulties of retiring horses and the lack of answers for workers and medallion owners. He votes yes on the rest.

James F. Gennaro

Thank you.

James F. Gennaro

Gennaro.

James F. Gennaro

Mr.

James F. Gennaro

Majority Leader, I wish to speak on my vote.

James F. Gennaro

Of course.

James F. Gennaro

Okay.

James F. Gennaro

Thank you.

James F. Gennaro

So people talking about this 18-month window, truly 14 months, and having been around horses and ridden horses and been like a real equestrian once upon a time.

James F. Gennaro

For more than 60 years and being around this industry for 36 years, I think I have some perspective on what it's going to take for them to get to where they are now and to their new lives, which is why I made the amendment.

James F. Gennaro

Regarding the workers,

James F. Gennaro

Oh, I wish to be associated with the remarks of Councilman Mifarius.

James F. Gennaro

I think she hit the nail right on the head.

James F. Gennaro

You know, we have, the council tried to get this done, tried to work out the worker thing, the medallion thing, you know, the horses thing.

James F. Gennaro

They couldn't get it done, and the reason why they couldn't get it done is because it's impossible.

James F. Gennaro

And the administration is going to find the same thing.

James F. Gennaro

And so we're already kind of warming up to, well, we're going to consider this and we're going to consider that.

James F. Gennaro

So if you own...

James F. Gennaro

horses,

James F. Gennaro

When you retire those horses at age 26, you have to find a place to put that horse.

James F. Gennaro

And you can't put it in a rescue setting because those are for sick horses.

James F. Gennaro

And our horses don't belong there.

James F. Gennaro

Nor can you put it in a sanctuary setting because sanctuary turns working horses into backyard horses.

James F. Gennaro

It's like putting a 20-year-old in a nursing home for life.

James F. Gennaro

And we talk about the cost of this.

James F. Gennaro

You know, the cost that they face now in taking care of the horse is somewhere between $25,000 and $30,000 a year per horse.

James F. Gennaro

And so that's what, and if you have a horse that's going to live another 25 years, not four years like the retired horses, you know, we got a problem.

James F. Gennaro

And the same thing with the medallions.

James F. Gennaro

There's going to be no, okay, I'm going to wrap up here.

James F. Gennaro

So it's tough being in their shoes.

James F. Gennaro

That's why I wanted to give them a little more time to adjust.

James F. Gennaro

Thank you very much.

Council Staff

That's the number in general.

Shaun Abreu

You're a vote council member when you get a chance.

Shaun Abreu

Thank you.

James F. Gennaro

Oh, pardon.

James F. Gennaro

So wrapped up in my own rhetoric.

James F. Gennaro

I'm voting no on 0943A, no on 0905A, and yes on the rest.

James F. Gennaro

Thank you.

Council Staff

Thank you, Council Member.