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Chair Farías asks about chain of custody and reporting distinctions

New York City Council · Oct 27, 2026 · starts 1:23:54 · 1 min 37 sec

Farías asks whether someone can be transferred out of DOC custody and back in. Chard says chain of custody can occur with OCA escorts in court parts, which may create reporting distinctions.

Amanda C. Farías

And there's never a moment where someone gets transferred out of your custody and then comes back in your custody?

Amanda C. Farías

For any care, like any court date, anything like that.

Chelsea Chard

It is a chain of custody that can occur when someone's given over to OCA to do the escorting within the court parts.

Chelsea Chard

Right.

Chelsea Chard

So that may be a distinction within reporting.

Chelsea Chard

Yeah.

Chelsea Chard

But it's generally kind of associated with the staff that are handling the person in that moment.

Chelsea Chard

Sure.

Chelsea Chard

Because those are the policies that would be applied.

Amanda C. Farías

Yeah, I guess that's what I'm thinking.

Amanda C. Farías

And that's what I– we can continue the conversation offline, but that's the point that I'm getting to is, like, if we also use the data sets with the chain of custody.

Amanda C. Farías

In parallel to one another, then that might mean DOC is not necessarily logging someone that's restrained or

Amanda C. Farías

shackled or handcuffed for a specific reason because they are no longer technically in their custody if they're given over to another city agent.

Amanda C. Farías

So that is like the point that I'm trying to get to.

Amanda C. Farías

But again, I'm happy to specifically talk about this incident and continue talking about that offline.

Amanda C. Farías

Did you ask?

Amanda C. Farías

We've been joined by Councilmember Narcis.

Amanda C. Farías

Thank you for joining us.

Amanda C. Farías

I'll pass it over to Councilmember Narcisse for some questions.

Mercedes Narcisse

Thank you, Chairs.

Mercedes Narcisse

And thank you for being here.