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New York City Council

Committee on Women and Gender Equity

Oversight - Maternal Health and Criminal Justice

Oct 27, 2026 · 10:00 AM ET · 2 hr 27 min
Hearing

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0:00:05 34 sec
Procedure

Council staff opens hearing and gives procedural instructions

Staff welcomes attendees to the joint hearing, asks phones and electronic devices to be silenced, explains appearance cards for testimony, and warns no one may approach the dais. Chair Farías is invited to begin.

0:00:40 21 sec
Remarks

Chair Farías welcomes attendees and introduces joint maternal health hearing

Farías identifies herself as Women and Gender Equity chair, welcomes Criminal Justice chair Brooks-Powers, and acknowledges Councilmembers Morano and Caban. She frames the hearing on maternal health and criminal justice.

0:01:00 1 min 21 sec
Remarks

Chair Farías outlines maternal health crisis and racial disparities

Farías says women are the fastest-growing incarcerated group, three in four are childbearing age, and incarcerated pregnant people face barriers like inconsistent prenatal care and shackling. She notes Black and low-income women are disproportionately affected.

0:02:21 44 sec
Remarks

Chair Farías cites NYC data on pregnant incarcerated people and gaps

Farías reports 52 incarcerated people were pregnant last year and describes gaps in mattresses, nutrition, outdoor time, safety, lactation support, and pregnancy education. She asks what CHS and DOC are doing to address these gaps.

0:03:05 23 sec
Remarks

Chair Farías turns to Chair Brooks-Powers for opening statement

Farías asks what correctional health services and DOC are doing to deliver maternal health services and invites Brooks-Powers to speak.

0:03:29 46 sec
Remarks

Chair Brooks-Powers opens with need for consistent maternal care in custody

Brooks-Powers welcomes everyone and says pregnancy, childbirth, and postpartum require medical care, nutrition, reproductive health care, and mental health support. These needs do not disappear upon incarceration.

0:04:14 49 sec
Remarks

Chair Brooks-Powers describes barriers to care and mental health needs

Brooks-Powers says pregnant people in custody rely on providers and staff to identify pregnancies, coordinate appointments, respond to complications, and provide postpartum care. She stresses screening for perinatal mood and anxiety disorders.

0:05:04 1 min 12 sec
Remarks

Chair Brooks-Powers questions implementation of NYC pregnancy requirements

Brooks-Powers notes NYC has requirements for reporting pregnancy outcomes and prenatal/postnatal care, but asks how they work in practice. She wants to know how DOC and CHS coordinate care and whether people consistently receive services.

0:06:16 31 sec
Remarks

Chair Brooks-Powers examines borough-based jail planning for maternal needs

Brooks-Powers says the committee will consider how planned borough-based jails will accommodate pregnancy, childbirth recovery, breastfeeding, and parents with infants. She says planning requires clear procedures and resources for continuity of care.

0:06:47 1 min 40 sec
Remarks

Chair Brooks-Powers introduces Intro 902 and resolutions on postpartum sentencing and restraints

Brooks-Powers lists Intro 902 by Councilmember Lee on mental health protocols and Resolutions 464, 497, and 498. She describes proposals on postpartum mental illness as a sentencing mitigator, prohibiting restraints, and postponing court proceedings.

0:08:26 39 sec
Remarks

Chair Brooks-Powers thanks staff and stakeholders

Brooks-Powers thanks committee staff and her own staff, then says she looks forward to discussion with CHS, DOC, Board of Correction, advocates, and stakeholders. She turns the floor back to Chair Farías.

0:09:05 40 sec
Remarks

Chair Farías introduces Intro 1144 and additional legislation

Farías says the committees will consider Intro 1144 by Councilmember Rita Joseph and others on gender-based violence analysis reporting. She also notes Intro 902 and Resolutions 464, 497, and 498.

0:09:46 54 sec
Procedure

Chair Farías gives witness slip and testimony instructions

Farías reminds people to fill out witness slips, indicate support or opposition, and notes no votes will be taken today. Testimony is limited to two minutes per person and council member questions to five minutes.

0:10:40 51 sec
Procedure

Committee counsel administers affirmation to witnesses

Staff administers the oath, asking witnesses to raise their right hands and affirm to tell the truth. Farías then tells witnesses they may begin.

0:11:31 40 sec
Agency Testimony

CHS Chief of Nursing Nancy Farias introduces agency and patient population

Nancy Farias identifies herself as Chief of Nursing for NYC Health and Hospitals Correctional Health Services and introduces colleague Janette Merrill. She says CHS has been the direct physical and mental health provider for DOC custody since 2016.

0:12:11 31 sec
Agency Testimony

CHS reports high mental health and substance use needs among women in custody

Farias says women are about 8% of CHS patients, with 82% enrolled in mental health services, 47% diagnosed with serious mental illness, and 34% with opioid use disorder. She notes 52 pregnant individuals were in CHS care last calendar year.

0:12:42 1 min 2 sec
Agency Testimony

CHS describes intake pregnancy screening and referrals

Farias says incarceration disrupts community care, so CHS conducts comprehensive medical evaluations at admission. At Rosie's, staff obtain reproductive health history and offer pregnancy testing to all reproductive-age patients, with referrals for follow-up.

0:13:44 54 sec
Agency Testimony

CHS outlines prenatal and postpartum care at Rosie's and Elmhurst

Farias says postpartum patients can see an OBGYN for postpartum or well-woman care. Pregnant patients receive prenatal labs, vitamins, on-site ultrasounds, education, and referrals to CHS and Elmhurst obstetricians.

0:14:39 1 min 8 sec
Agency Testimony

CHS details coordination with Elmhurst for complicated pregnancies

Farias says patients with complex profiles receive care coordinated with Elmhurst Hospital, including joint telehealth visits and case conferences. Labor and delivery patients are transported to Elmhurst by FDNY EMS.

0:15:46 14 sec
Agency Testimony

CHS describes Rosie's Nursery and mental health evaluation process

Farias says patients may apply to reside with infants in Rosie's Nursery, where CHS nurses provide clinical support. Mental health providers review history, interview patients, and develop treatment and reentry plans.

0:16:01 1 min 26 sec
Agency Testimony

CHS explains mental health services and perinatal screening

Farias says CHS provides counseling, medication, and therapeutic housing, and clinicians assess trauma and perinatal mood disorders. Pregnant and postpartum patients with diagnosed mental health disorders are closely monitored.

0:17:26 59 sec
Agency Testimony

CHS describes reentry and discharge planning for pregnant and postpartum patients

Farias says many pregnant patients have complex comorbidities requiring robust care coordination. CHS reentry staff connect patients to community resources, Medicaid, housing, and Elmhurst social workers for follow-up.

0:18:25 2 min 16 sec
Agency Testimony

CHS comments on Intro 902 and concerns about clinical decision-making

Farias says Intro 902 would require protocols for identifying, screening, referring, monitoring, and following up pregnant and postpartum individuals with mental health needs. CHS says it is the appropriate agency but wants language refined to avoid legislating clinical decision-making.

0:20:41 45 sec
Agency Testimony

DOC Assistant Commissioner Valerie Greysock introduces DOC role

Valerie Greysock identifies herself as Assistant Commissioner in the Division of Programs and Community Partnerships. She says CHS provides medical and mental health care while DOC facilitates access through appointments, transportation, referrals, and accommodations.

0:21:27 38 sec
Agency Testimony

DOC describes doula services through Caribbean Women's Health Association

Greysock says DOC offers doula services at Rosie's through the Caribbean Women's Health Association. Doulas provide birth planning, breastfeeding education, newborn care, and pregnancy loss support twice weekly, serving 20 women and over 400 hours from January to June.

0:22:05 52 sec
Agency Testimony

DOC describes residential nursery program at Rosie's

Greysock says DOC operates a residential nursery where eligible mothers can stay with infants until the child's first birthday. Participation is voluntary, admission considers the child's best interest, and an early education counselor helps mothers.

0:22:57 11 sec
Agency Testimony

DOC concludes testimony on pregnancy and parenting programs

Greysock says pregnancy and early parenthood are difficult during incarceration and the programs offer guidance, support, and bonding opportunities. She thanks the committees and welcomes questions.

0:23:08 45 sec
Remarks

Public Advocate Jumaane Williams begins testimony on incarcerated pregnancy

Williams thanks the chairs and says pregnancy, childbirth, and postpartum needs do not change when a person is incarcerated. He says people in custody must receive timely medical care, mental health support, and dignity.

0:23:54 1 min 5 sec
Remarks

Williams describes systemic gaps and dehumanizing treatment in correctional facilities

Williams cites ACOG guidance and says incarcerated pregnant people often face inadequate care, delayed obstetric responses, isolation during delivery, and shackling. He notes post-delivery separation increases postpartum depression risks.

0:24:58 1 min 27 sec
Remarks

Williams supports Intro 902 and Resolutions 497 and 498

Williams says Intro 902 would require DOC and CHS to establish written protocols for pregnant and postpartum individuals with mental health needs. He also supports resolutions to postpone court proceedings and prohibit restraints during labor and interrogation.

0:26:25 1 min 15 sec
Remarks

Williams calls for dignity and racial equity in maternal care

Williams says no one should be shackled during vulnerable medical moments and cites incidents involving Samantha Randazzo and Luz Burke. He notes Black and brown women are disproportionately affected and asks about continuity of care.

0:27:40 41 sec
Remarks

Council Member Hudson introduces Resolutions 497 and 498

Hudson describes a pregnant woman who went into labor while handcuffed in Brooklyn Criminal Court. Resolution 497 would prohibit restraints during labor, delivery, postpartum recovery, and custodial interrogations; Resolution 498 would allow postponement of court proceedings in late pregnancy.

0:28:21 51 sec
Remarks

Hudson urges passage of protections for pregnant people in court

Hudson says no one should choose between health and navigating the criminal legal system, and temporary postponement does not end accountability. She urges the state legislature and governor to pass the protections.

0:29:12 1 min 8 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks CHS about intake pregnancy screening and staff training

Farías asks when individuals are screened for pregnancy. Jeanette Merrill says all new admissions receive comprehensive medical evaluations, and women of reproductive age at Rosie's receive pregnancy testing with referrals to CHS OBGYN.

0:30:20 1 min 9 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías questions CHS staffing and emergency response protocols

Farías asks whether nurses are DOC or CHS staff and how medical emergencies are handled. Nancy Farias says CHS staff conduct intake and respond first to housing units, stabilizing patients and escalating as clinically needed.

0:31:29 59 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías questions DOC on doula service frequency and staffing

Farías asks whether DOC follows the administrative code minimum of twice-weekly doula services for four hours with two doulas. Greysock says the Caribbean Women's Health Association is on site at least twice weekly for four hours.

0:32:28 53 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks about jump in doula service hours

Farías notes doula service hours rose to 426 hours from January to June 2026 and 438 hours from July to December 2025, compared with 148 hours in early 2025. Greysock attributes this to demand and doulas sometimes coming a third day.

0:33:21 25 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks about doula compensation and contract

Farías asks if doulas are compensated for extra hours. Greysock says yes through a DOC contract with the Caribbean Women's Health Association, which has been renewed and may be expanded.

0:33:46 1 min 3 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías questions duration and procurement of doula contract

Farías asks how long DOC has had the doula contract and whether it is open for RFP. Greysock says the contract has been renewed for several years, originally two years and currently one year, following procurement rules.

0:34:49 37 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks when DOC began doula services and which facilities are covered

Farías asks when doula services started and whether they serve only Rosie's. Greysock says services began when the law took effect and the contract covers anyone pregnant or postpartum, though services typically occur at Rosie's.

0:35:26 36 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks about doula facility access process

Farías asks how doulas enter DOC facilities. Greysock says contracted providers and volunteers go through a volunteer ID process, allowing them to access the nursery or housing areas to meet women.

0:36:01 29 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks about pregnancy reported after intake

Farías asks what happens if a pregnancy is reported after intake. Merrill says the patient is referred to CHS OBGYN, prenatal vitamins and labs are ordered, and care is coordinated with Elmhurst.

0:36:30 1 min 16 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks about missed prenatal appointments due to non-production

Farías asks how many pregnant people missed scheduled prenatal or obstetric appointments because DOC did not produce them. Merrill reports non-production rates for on-island and off-island appointments across calendar years 2023, 2024, and 2025.

0:37:46 31 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks about hospital transports for labor and pregnancy emergencies

Farías asks how many people in DOC custody were transported for labor, delivery, or pregnancy-related emergencies. Merrill says 15 individuals gave birth in custody in 2023 and 2025 and were transported to Elmhurst.

0:38:17 2 min 20 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías questions zero reported restraint incidents on pregnant people

Farías asks how many restraint incidents involving pregnant or postpartum people were recorded. Chelsea Chard says there have been zero reported incidents in the past three years, and explains DOC policy limits restraints to absolute last resort.

0:40:37 1 min 10 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks how NYPD and DOC share pregnancy information

Brooks-Powers asks how medical information is shared between NYPD and DOC when custody changes. Chard says NYPD does not share medical information with DOC and people go through medical screening at the courthouse.

0:41:46 48 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks whether pregnancy screenings are repeated during detention

Brooks-Powers asks if pregnancy and postpartum screenings occur only at intake. Merrill says screenings occur primarily at intake but can be repeated as clinically indicated, including at subsequent clinic appointments.

0:42:35 1 min 8 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks how DOC ensures CHS is notified of pregnancy

Brooks-Powers asks how DOC ensures CHS is promptly notified when someone is identified as pregnant. Chard says intake screening is done by CHS, and DOC generally does not hold medical information or require disclosure.

0:43:43 1 min 17 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks for racial demographics of pregnant people in custody

Brooks-Powers asks for the racial demographic breakdown of pregnant people in DOC custody over three years. Merrill says CHS does not collect racial demographic information, though most women in care are Black and brown and all pregnancies are treated as higher risk.

0:44:59 2 min 3 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers questions nursery location and capacity

Brooks-Powers asks where the nursery is located and its capacity. Greysock says it is at Rosie's with maximum occupancy of about 15 rooms for mothers and children, and mothers can keep infants overnight.

0:47:02 2 min 53 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks about nursery slots and housing pregnant people

Brooks-Powers asks if there are enough nursery slots for every birthing person. Greysock says yes, but currently only one mother and infant are in the nursery while other pregnant individuals remain in general population.

0:49:55 1 min 19 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks about supports in the nursery program

Brooks-Powers asks what supports are available to parents and children in the nursery. Greysock describes doulas, social workers, correctional counselors, Our Children reentry support, and partnerships with WPA, Osborne, New Hour, and Homebase.

0:51:14 1 min 50 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks about nursery notices and application process

Brooks-Powers asks where nursery eligibility notices are posted and how the application process works. Merrill says the gender-related services team meets with every pregnant person and facilitates applications.

0:53:03 3 min 47 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers questions borough-based jail plans for women

Brooks-Powers asks how DOC plans to house women and gender expansive people after Rikers closes. Nell Colon says Queens Detention Center is being considered, and Brooks-Powers questions limiting women to one borough.

0:56:50 1 min 43 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks about written restraint policy for pregnant people

Brooks-Powers asks for DOC's written policy governing restraints on pregnant people. Chard says policy aligns with state guidelines, emphasizes de-escalation, and permits front restraints only as a last resort for imminent harm.

0:58:33 1 min 33 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers follows up on deadlocking allegations

Brooks-Powers revisits a September 23 hearing where General Counsel Conroy said deadlocking was not occurring, while Legal Aid testified clients were deadlocked. Chard says DOC cannot comment on ongoing litigation but maintains its prior position.

1:00:06 1 min 50 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks which Board of Correction deadlocking safeguards DOC implemented

Brooks-Powers cites Board of Correction recommendations on mandatory reporting, audits, training, discipline, and tracking lock-in duration. Chard says DOC has reporting obligations for emergency lock-ins and supervisors should observe and correct violations.

1:01:56 30 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks about new deadlocking allegations in 2025 and 2026

Brooks-Powers asks whether DOC received additional allegations of deadlocking or involuntary individualized lock-ins in 2025 or 2026. Chard says DOC will have to follow up after the hearing.

1:02:27 2 min 36 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks about white tags on cell door switchboards

Brooks-Powers describes testimony that white tags were placed on cell door switchboards to indicate deadlocked individuals. She asks whether staff are permitted to tag buttons and what the tags mean; Chard says she is not familiar and will follow up.

1:05:02 1 min 31 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías questions CHS on collecting racial demographic data

Farías asks whether CHS collects racial demographic data given the predominantly Black and Latina population. Merrill says race is not on the intake screening and historically has not informed treatment plans, though providers can ask if clinically indicated.

1:06:33 2 min 15 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks whether families are notified about nursery eligibility

Farías asks if families are notified about the possibility of moving to the nursery. Greysock says DOC communicates directly with the person in care, and Colon says DOC generally does not contact family without consent.

1:08:48 1 min 53 sec
Q&A

Council Member Morano questions infants living in Rikers nursery

Morano says it is extraordinary that babies live inside a jail and asks how many infants are currently and historically on Rikers. Colon says one infant currently and eight since 2022; Merrill says emergencies are transferred to Elmhurst.

1:10:41 2 min 16 sec
Q&A

Council Member Morano asks about incarcerated mothers' children and ACS coordination

Morano asks whether DOC tracks incarcerated women who are primary caregivers of minor children. Colon says information is self-reported and not tracked in a database, but new intake asks about children and coordinates with ACS when needed.

1:12:57 1 min 6 sec
Q&A

Council Member Morano asks where maternity and nursery services will go after Rikers

Morano asks where maternity and nursery services will be located under the borough-based jail plan. Colon says they are slated for the Queens Detention Complex, with capacity around 450 while 482 women are currently in custody.

1:14:03 1 min 53 sec
Q&A

Council Member Hudson questions restraints and medical consultation

Hudson asks whether medical personnel are consulted before restraints are applied to a pregnant person. Chard says restraints are used for imminent safety risk and may be applied without medical consultation, and medical providers cannot direct removal.

1:15:56 1 min 54 sec
Q&A

Council Member Hudson asks about pregnancy-related medical expenditures and prenatal nurse vacancy

Hudson asks about annual pregnancy-related medical care expenditures. Merrill says CHS does not budget by diagnosis and most costs are staffing; a prenatal nurse position has been vacant for over a month and CHS is hiring.

1:17:51 25 sec
Q&A

Council Member Hudson asks about doula program expenditures

Hudson asks for annual doula program expenditures. Colon says the contract was approximately $200,000 over four years, averaging about $50,000 per year.

1:18:16 52 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks DOC to provide written restraint policy

Farías asks DOC to verbalize and send the current written policy governing restraints on pregnant people. Chard says the policy aligns with state law and exists in general and pregnancy-specific policies, and will confer internally about sharing it.

1:19:08 1 min 33 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías questions zero restraint reports and custody data

Farías asks how DOC aggregates restraint data and whether incidents involving other agencies are excluded. Chard explains custody transfers to NYPD or OCA and says reports are generated by the agency handling the person at the time.

1:20:41 1 min 21 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías raises Brooklyn courtroom birth case and data accountability

Farías cites a May 2026 case where a nine-month pregnant woman gave birth in a Brooklyn courtroom and asks why it is not in DOC data. Chard says the person may have been in NYPD or OCA custody, not DOC custody.

1:22:02 1 min 52 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías probes gaps when custody transfers between agencies

Farías says she wants to understand whether DOC logs restraints when another agency takes custody during court or medical transport. Chard says each agency follows its own policies and reports, and Farías asks to discuss the specific case offline.

1:23:54 1 min 37 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks about chain of custody and reporting distinctions

Farías asks whether someone can be transferred out of DOC custody and back in. Chard says chain of custody can occur with OCA escorts in court parts, which may create reporting distinctions.

1:25:31 2 min 47 sec
Q&A

Council Member Narcisse asks how soon pregnant women see an OBGYN

Narcisse asks how soon after intake a pregnant woman is seen by an OBGYN. Nancy Farias says the goal is within a week, with appointment timing based on pregnancy status and clinical presentation.

1:28:17 1 min 24 sec
Q&A

Council Member Narcisse asks about shackling and de-escalation

Narcisse says legislation since 2009 prohibits shackling pregnant women and asks how many have given birth restrained. Chard says DOC has no such cases and describes intensive de-escalation before any last-resort restraints.

1:29:42 1 min 24 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks about doula working group meetings and recommendations

Farías asks whether the doula program working group meets every six months. Greysock says DOC participates at least twice yearly and has adopted recommendations on doula programs and support persons during birth.

1:31:06 33 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks CHS about contraceptives and pregnancy termination options

Farías asks whether women are offered contraceptives before release and whether pregnant people can choose termination. Nancy Farias says reproductive health encounters include contraceptive options and positive pregnancy tests include options.

1:31:39 1 min 47 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks about officer presence during exams and mental health continuity

Farías asks whether correctional officers are present during pregnant patient exams or labor. Merrill says mental health screening occurs during medical evaluation and referrals can be made by CHS, DOC, legal aid, or external parties.

1:33:26 2 min 22 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers follows up on medical consultation before restraints

Brooks-Powers asks again whether medical personnel are consulted before restraints on a pregnant person. Chard says restraint decisions are safety determinations, not medical ones, made by staff observing imminent harm.

1:35:47 1 min 29 sec
Agency Testimony

Board of Correction Interim Executive Director introduces BOC oversight role

Melissa Cintron Hernandez identifies herself as BOC Interim Executive Director and General Counsel, joined by Katrina Blackman and Chensi Augustin. She describes BOC's mandate to set and enforce minimum standards for care, custody, and safety in city jails.

1:37:16 2 min 29 sec
Agency Testimony

BOC describes maternal health oversight and nursery recommendations

Cintron Hernandez says maternal health requires services throughout pregnancy and postpartum and coordination during emergencies. BOC monitors facilities, advocates for nursery improvements, and recommends reviewing the nursery application process.

1:39:45 1 min 44 sec
Agency Testimony

BOC calls for stronger monitoring and alternatives to incarceration

Cintron Hernandez says studies show inconsistent maternal care in jails and adverse outcomes for children. She says BOC needs stronger monitoring and research capacity and supports alternatives to incarceration for expectant mothers.

1:41:29 1 min 22 sec
Agency Testimony

BOC advocates for higher standard of care and dedicated pregnancy dormitory

Cintron Hernandez says BOC supports a higher standard of care than outside jail, including immediate mental health access and a dedicated dormitory for pregnant people. She notes risks of general population such as chemical agents and lack of specialized beds.

1:42:50 1 min 6 sec
Agency Testimony

BOC concludes testimony on maternal health as a right

Cintron Hernandez says maternal health encompasses childbirth and the months after, requiring medical and mental health services, family contact, and continuity of care. She says BOC will oversee implementation and report concerns.

1:43:57 1 min 44 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks BOC about complaints from pregnant and postpartum people

Brooks-Powers asks whether BOC has received complaints from pregnant or postpartum people. Cintron Hernandez says yes, including concerns about beds, healthy food, and access to medical and mental health care; Augustin describes women housed in general population during chemical agent incidents.

1:45:41 2 min 45 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks about trends and dedicated housing for pregnant people

Brooks-Powers asks about complaint trends and quantification. Blackman says numbers vary with census and stresses that a dedicated housing area would concentrate care and make it easier to identify and serve pregnant and parenting women.

1:48:26 1 min 11 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks whether BOC analyzed quality of services

Brooks-Powers asks if BOC has analyzed the quality of services for pregnant or postpartum people. Cintron Hernandez says medical privacy limits full-scale analysis, but BOC monitors the nursery and addresses complaints.

1:49:37 1 min 33 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks BOC about young adults in pregnancy housing or nursery

Farías asks whether BOC is aware of young adults ages 18 to 21 in pregnancy housing or the nursery. Augustin says she has not checked ages but would not be surprised, and notes pregnant women are housed in general population.

1:51:10 1 min 34 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks BOC for recommendations to better support pregnant people

Farías asks for BOC recommendations. Cintron Hernandez says the main recommendation is opening a dormitory for all pregnant people and reviewing the nursery application process to reduce intimidation and delays.

1:52:44 3 min 23 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks how nursery application can be expedited and simplified

Farías asks for specific recommendations on expediting the nursery application. Cintron Hernandez suggests strict review deadlines; Blackman says the application has outdated language, redundant ACS questions, and literacy and language barriers.

1:56:07 49 sec
Q&A

Chair Farías asks whether BOC rules cover infant clothing in nursery

Farías asks whether BOC rules adequately cover infant clothing and materials for children in the nursery. Cintron Hernandez says the rules do not address this and there is a gap in minimum standards that should be fixed.

1:56:56 1 min 39 sec
Q&A

Chair Brooks-Powers asks what data BOC receives and needs for oversight

Brooks-Powers asks what data BOC receives on pregnant and postpartum people. Cintron Hernandez says BOC receives a list of pregnant people in custody but medical privacy laws limit access to medical records, and expanded access would help oversight.

1:58:35 1 min 32 sec
Q&A

Council Member Narcisse asks how many pregnant women are in custody

Narcisse asks how many pregnant women are currently in DOC custody. Cintron Hernandez says five women are pregnant or receiving postpartum care, plus one mother and child in the nursery.

2:00:07 31 sec
Q&A

Council Member Narcisse asks about restraints during birth

Narcisse asks how many women gave birth while restrained. BOC says it has no reports of women in custody being restrained during labor or delivery.

2:00:38 1 min 47 sec
Q&A

Council Member Narcisse asks about labor transport time and steps

Narcisse asks how long it takes to transport a woman in labor from Rosie's to the hospital. BOC says it will follow up with CHS and notes CHS testified patients are transported to Elmhurst; Narcisse stresses risks of delay.

2:02:25 26 sec
Procedure

Chair Farías excuses BOC panel and opens public testimony

Farías thanks BOC and says DOC and CHS will follow up on outstanding questions. She excuses the panel and opens the hearing to public testimony.

2:02:51 2 min 9 sec
Procedure

Chair Farías gives public testimony rules and calls first panel

Farías reminds the public to observe decorum, limits testimony to two minutes, and explains how to submit written testimony. She calls the first panel: Hannah Mae Powers, Isabel Seta, Jillian Mazalewski, and Rachel Bronstein.

2:05:00 2 min 11 sec
Public Testimony

Hannah Mae Powers testifies for Brooklyn Borough President on maternal mental health

Hannah Mae Powers, health and safety policy analyst for Brooklyn Borough President Antonio Reynoso, supports Intro 902 and Resolutions 464 and 498. She cites high rates of perinatal mental health disorders and serious mental illness among incarcerated women.

2:07:11 2 min 6 sec
Public Testimony

Rachel Bronstein of Her Justice supports Intro 1144 and broader data collection

Rachel Bronstein, Senior Director of Policy at Her Justice, supports Intro 1144 on gender-based violence data. She urges the city to include service provider and legal system data, not just law enforcement data, and to collect data on divorce proceedings.

2:09:17 2 min 10 sec
Public Testimony

Jillian Modzeleski of Brooklyn Defender Services supports Resolution 497

Jillian Modzeleski directs the Women's Defense Project at Brooklyn Defender Services and supports Resolution 497. She says no one should labor or give birth behind bars or in restraints and calls for trauma-informed gynecological care.

2:11:27 2 min 25 sec
Public Testimony

Isabella Seda of New Hour supports anti-shackling and court postponement resolutions

Isabella Seda, Social Justice Community Organizer at New Hour, supports Resolution 497 without chapter amendments and Resolution 498. She also asks for broader postpartum diagnosis coverage and says health protocols should be established by health care professionals.

2:13:52 2 min 25 sec
Q&A

Council Member Gutiérrez asks about trauma-informed gynecological care at Rosie's

Gutiérrez asks about the current landscape for gynecological care and trauma-informed training. Modzeleski says there is only one gynecologist on Rikers and clients fear exams, so allowing provider choice and requiring trauma-informed training would help.

2:16:17 2 min 27 sec
Public Testimony

Olivia Pickard of Volunteers of Legal Service supports Intro 902

Olivia Pickard, staff attorney with the Incarcerated Mothers Law Project at Volunteers of Legal Service, supports Intro 902. She describes postpartum clients separated from newborns and asked to sign away parental authority without counsel.

2:18:44 2 min 18 sec
Public Testimony

Liz Swavola of Women's Prison Association urges community-based care and Rikers closure

Liz Swavola, Chief Impact Officer at WPA, supports anti-shackling and postpartum sentencing legislation. She says incarceration costs $500,000 per person at Rikers and urges investment in community-based care and closure of Rosie's.

2:21:01 2 min 49 sec
Public Testimony

Ziyadah Touré Mateen calls for immediate Rikers closure

Ziyadah Touré Mateen, a member of the Cattell Center for Equity, Health, and Justice, says conditions at Rikers are dire and pregnant women need wraparound services. She urges the council to reduce the jail population and close Rikers, including Rosie's.

2:23:50 2 min 11 sec
Public Testimony

Michael Tucker calls for Rikers hearing and audit of DOC and CHS

Michael Tucker, with Community Hub and partner of Khalil's Cartel Center, asks the committee to audit DOC and CHS, freeze funding, and hold a hearing on Rikers Island. He says families are suffering and demands accountability.

2:26:01 30 sec
Remarks

Chair Brooks-Powers responds to request for Rikers hearing

Brooks-Powers thanks Tucker and says she has requested a hearing on Rikers Island but it has not been approved due to safety, security, and technology concerns. She says she continues to advocate for it.

2:26:31 20 sec
Procedure

Chair Farías excuses final panel and calls for remaining witnesses

Farías sees no questions, excuses the panel, and calls Christopher Johnson for the last panel. She asks if there is virtual testimony and, seeing none, calls Johnson one more time.

2:26:51 47 sec
Procedure

Hearing adjourned

With no further witnesses or virtual testimony, Chair Farías adjourns the hearing.