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Public Testimony

Helen Strom testifies on moving people from shelter to permanent housing

New York City Council · Oct 28, 2026 · starts 3:42:42 · 2 min 17 sec

Strom, Urban Justice Center, says the city must prioritize moving people out of shelter using vacant 9G units, HPD apartments, and 6,000 supportive housing units. She says people languish for years while shelters cost more than vouchers.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

Hi, my name is Helen Strom.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

I'm testifying from the Safety Net Project at the Urban Justice Center.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

And we work with shelter residents around the city and also organize with current and former shelter residents through the Safety Net Activists.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

I think I would agree with a lot of what has been said here today.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

One thing I want to emphasize is the importance of

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

We need to be doing everything we can to get people out of shelter as quickly as possible.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

And there is a lot more that we can do as a city beyond what we're currently doing.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

We know we have thousands of vacant 9G units.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

We have thousands of vacant HPD apartments.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

We have 6,000 vacant supportive housing units specifically for people who are homeless.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

It needs to be like an all hands on deck effort.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

Like that needs to be a top priority to get people into vacant units, to have housing specialists at all these shelters, to be doing trainings on city thefts, on all the housing programs at these shelters.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

There's the right to shelter is incredibly important.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

However, we have not done nearly enough to get people out of shelters and into permanent housing.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

So many people.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

In our group who come to us have been in shelters for years and years and years and years.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

And you should not have to be in a shelter for five years or six years or seven years.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

It's also not a good use of city resources.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

We're spending, you know, sometimes $10,000 a month for someone to be in a shelter, like when a voucher could be $2,000 a month.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

To continue to allow people to languish in

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

for this amount of time when we do have concrete housing resources in this city is...

Member of the Public

It's a choice.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

Yeah, it's a choice.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

And it's a choice that we're making and we need to be putting all of our resources towards getting people out as quickly as possible.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

And if you do that and then you have like a smaller number of shelters and people are moving out quickly, then I think that you can have...

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

A different conversation about like, well, you could actually start closing shelters.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

You could be closing these bad congregate shelters and moving towards just having single rooms.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

You could be doing very different things.

Member of the Public - Helen Strom

And I think like that's a really important piece that we hope we can work with the council and get the city to take more action on.

Member of the Public

Absolutely.

Member of the Public

Thank you.