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Public Testimony

Grace Busser testifies on Intro 387 and policing-centered safety

New York City Council · Oct 28, 2026 · starts 3:44:59 · 3 min 50 sec

Busser, Bronx Defenders, says police presence compounds trauma and Intro 387 risks reinforcing policing. She asks for clear definitions, distinction between allegations and substantiated findings, and separation of resident, staff, and police-response incidents.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Thank you, Chair Hudson.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

My name is Grace Busser.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

I'm a civil legal advocate in the civil action practice at the Bronx Defenders, a community-oriented public defender that uses an interdisciplinary model

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

comprised of teams of attorneys, social workers, advocates, and others who all collaborate to provide holistic services to our clients.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

The Bronx accounts for almost 40% of all individuals and families entering the New York City shelter system.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

It also has the highest concentration of shelters compared to any other borough in the city.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

In my role, I work very closely with the shelter system, advocating for clients to access resources in the hopes that they will transition to stable, healthy, and safe permanent housing.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

I accompany clients to intake, visit them in shelter, work with shelter workers and case managers to help clients meet their goals and get the services that they need while living there.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

So I know that people in shelter are at one of the most vulnerable points in their lives.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

They're often entering shelter from traumatizing circumstances, whether living on the streets, recently evicted, released from incarceration, fleeing an unsafe situation.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Police presence in shelter can compound this trauma.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Residents may avoid reporting victimization if they fear it will bring police further into their lives.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

We know that a criminal case can cost a client their shelter placement.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

It can jeopardize housing applications.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

It can affect immigration status and carry collateral consequences for families with children.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

More police without stronger services and better living conditions is not the solution.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Those calling shelter their home deserve dignity, support, and safety in a meaningful way.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

We are concerned that this bill, 387, as written, risks reinforcing a policing-centered approach to shelter safety by emphasizing incident counts and security measures without requiring equivalent transparency

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

around staff misconduct, residents'experiences, or the consequences of enforcement decisions.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

We have three main concerns.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

We need to, one, make the data clear and reliable.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Each category of critical incident should be clearly defined.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Transparency is crucial.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Additionally, the bill does not require DHS to distinguish between allegations and substantiated findings or provide the circumstances surrounding an incident.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Without these distinctions, the data may present an incomplete or misleading picture of shelter safety.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Two, we need to measure the impact on residents.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

I've represented clients whose shelter placements were disrupted following incidents classified by DHS as domestic violence.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

They've been separated from each other.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

They've lost their shelter placement.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

And while protecting survivors is essential, so is ensuring that DHS appropriately assesses these incidents, understands residents in their own words, and considers the consequences of their response.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Three, we need to make staff and security accountable.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Reports should separate incidents between residents from those involving staff or security.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

As well as incidents that led to a police response from those that did not.

Crystal Hudson

Sorry.

Crystal Hudson

Can you provide a little bit more clarity around that?

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Sure.

Crystal Hudson

You're saying.

Crystal Hudson

separate incidents that involved staff.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

From incidents that involved, say, resident to resident.

Crystal Hudson

Okay, thank you.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

And then additionally, provide reports that separate incidents that resulted in a police response from those that did not.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

And then third, separating allegations from substantiated circumstances.

Crystal Hudson

Right.

Crystal Hudson

Okay.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

We know that without sufficient context, this insufficient reporting can lead to, it can distort comparisons across shelter and across the city, which can reinforce the perception that increased law enforcement involvement is necessary.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

It's not.

Crystal Hudson

And with some of those changes, would you be supportive of the legislation?

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

We would be happy to work with the committee in implementing these changes, and if implemented in a satisfactory way, we might be in support.

Crystal Hudson

Okay.

Crystal Hudson

Thank you.

Member of the Public - Grace Busser

Thank you for your time.

Crystal Hudson

Thank you.