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Council Member Narcisse Questions Panel on Liquor License Requirements and Staff Burdens

New York City Council · Apr 23, 2025 · starts 1:07:44 · 3 min 58 sec

Council Member Mercedes Narcisse asks the business owners about the viability of outdoor dining without a liquor license and the operational burdens placed on restaurant staff to police outdoor spaces.

Mercedes Narcisse

And as a former small business owner, I know how difficult it can be in New York City to run business, right?

Mercedes Narcisse

So now I heard from you.

Mercedes Narcisse

I was gonna ask the question around the paperwork and all the things that we can do to make it easier, but now I want to hear from the business owners how we can help you.

Mercedes Narcisse

What is the step that you're expecting from us beside the paperwork?

Mercedes Narcisse

Because the paperwork is tremendous.

Mercedes Narcisse

And one of the questions that I have, I know the liquor license has been difficult.

Mercedes Narcisse

How viable is our door without dining without liquor license?

Member of the Public - Robert Guarino

Yeah, we without liquor license, it it would not be viable at all.

Member of the Public - Robert Guarino

How do you how could we explain to our guests that they can have a glass of wine inside but but not outside it's it's you know we it wouldn't be viable for street or s or sidewalk at that point for sure.

Member of the Public - Megan Rickerson

But also the burden on the staff of policing that I mean we all saw during COVID the burden that was put on checking people's vax cards.

Member of the Public - Megan Rickerson

Like I had a human throw a glass bottle at a bartender over a vax card.

Member of the Public - Megan Rickerson

It's not the staff that are serving drinks or food.

Member of the Public - Megan Rickerson

It's not the responsibility to police things like that.

Member of the Public - Megan Rickerson

You know and then so if we can't serve alcohol then we have to hire security because then you have running the risk of someone taking alcohol outside and then the SLA coming by and then pulling your liquor license and once you lose your liquor license you can never get one ever again.

Member of the Public - Megan Rickerson

So if I've spent my entire life being a bar owner and that's gone and that's based on just like someone taking something outside there are just so many levels and it's like as much as COVID is over for hospitality people are still really tired and then to ask your staff to do more on what they're already doing it's a big ask and we're just trying to love on people and be hospitable and take care of the people we employ.

Member of the Public - Megan Rickerson

So it's just too much of an ask for people to do that.

Member of the Public - Megan Rickerson

And we you know as I said 907 burgers I think I said to break even take away alcohol and you think about the margins that you make on food which is not a lot compared to the margins that you make on selling alcohol because food goes bad.

Member of the Public - Megan Rickerson

Alcohol does not.

Member of the Public - Chrisette Woods

So and to add um just the burden of of the paperwork, reducing the paperwork, because it's it is very time consuming um for my team trying to complete these applications in the back and forth.

Member of the Public - Chrisette Woods

Yes.

Mercedes Narcisse

Been there.

Mercedes Narcisse

I know how difficult that can be.

Mercedes Narcisse

Um another thing that I want to ask you.

Mercedes Narcisse

Do you think because we all want you to stay in business?

Mercedes Narcisse

That's what makes New York City New York City.

Mercedes Narcisse

We're not perfect in legislation because legislation we have to address certain things.

Mercedes Narcisse

Keep in mind, right?

Mercedes Narcisse

Is just not to take your business out in all the defense of my colleagues.

Mercedes Narcisse

We we know that shed was a problem, sidewalk cafe was a problem.

Mercedes Narcisse

We want to work with you.

Mercedes Narcisse

Just keep that in mind.

Mercedes Narcisse

So whatever that you feel like we can do, we we hear the paperwork, and I'm sure Gail Boy is gonna be on top of it.

Mercedes Narcisse

We're gonna have that conversation.

Mercedes Narcisse

Because we need you to stay in business, and we're not here to push you out of the door, because without restaurant in New York City, we're not New York City.

Mercedes Narcisse

So I wanna say that whatever you think that we can do for you, we're gonna continue working on it.

Mercedes Narcisse

We know that alcohol is a problem like you just mentioned, and I'm here to support, and I know Chair uh um Julie Menon is gonna continue working with you and we're gonna make it happen, okay?

Mercedes Narcisse

The best way we can.

Mercedes Narcisse

So thank you for your business in New York City.

Mercedes Narcisse

Thank you.

Farah N. Louis

Thank you.

Chi A. Ossé

Oh, I can just start.

Chi A. Ossé

Um good morning.

Chi A. Ossé

It is in my personal opinion that this bill that was passed and what the administration was trying to do, I believe that the intention was to kill the program.