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Ryan Schallenberg, Clayton Apartments VP, testifies on Legionella costs and management issues

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 2:50:13 · 2 min 33 sec

Schallenberg details $250K+ spent on Legionella remediation with no reimbursement, $697K annual insurance, poor approved management companies including one indicted for theft, and lack of revenue-generating assets compared to other Mitchell-Lamas.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

Hey everybody, my name is Ryan Schallenberg.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I'm the vice president of the board.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I'm going to try to say these things as quickly as possible.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

So you mentioned

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

The loan conversion and how much of that, how much of the increases go towards the loan conversion.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I can tell you that HPD approved for us for this year, 15% increase, and that's only to cover the loan conversion.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

Okay.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

And I'll be honest with you, that's nowhere, it's a drop in the bucket to get us up to speed.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

So it's,

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

You know, this idea that we're never going to pay the loans.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

We got approved.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I know Yusuf isn't here today, but Yusuf Salam, he got us $150,000 for 2026 fiscal year.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

We can't even get that until we pay to convert the loan.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

So it's essentially we've got nothing.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

Esplanade Gardens got a million dollars last year.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I don't know if they had to do the same thing, but they got that money.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

We got nothing.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

And, you know, Legionella is in the news right now.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I know everyone's, that's on everybody's, I got you, don't worry.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I know that's on everybody's mind.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

We had Legionella in our building for three years.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

When it happened, we were told by the Department of Health that we had to immediately take care of it.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

We got zero money.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

We had to pay over $250,000 to date.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

We're paying $6,000 to $8,000 a month to run a monochloramine system that we don't even need anymore.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

And we've had now three months of testing and been Legionella free.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

Now, why do we have that problem?

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

Because we got 62-year-old pipes and the Legionella keeps coming back.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

So if we don't get the money to replace the pipes, it's going to keep coming again and again.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

And they're being forced to pay for this.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

Now, all these buildings in East Harlem right now are being cleaned out.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

They're getting the money ahead of time.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

We've been told we can't get that money back now that we paid for it.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

And it's put us in a huge hole, quite frankly.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

And that's the least of our problems.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

$25 to $30 million to update the pipes, the windows, the other local laws.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I mean, I just don't know where to begin.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

Our insurance costs $697,000 a year.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I appreciate that that was addressed before, that you guys are going to do something about that.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

But this is a systemic problem for Mitchell Lama.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

It's not just us.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

And, okay, sorry.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I think that's pretty much it.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

But we appreciate everything you guys are trying to do and will continue to do for us.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

Thank you.

Linda Lee

And if you do think of something after today, make sure to send it in because we will review it.

Linda Lee

I'm sorry, say that again?

Linda Lee

No, I was saying if you do remember something after today, because there may have been some things that you forgot to mention, definitely submit that to us.

Linda Lee

Sure.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

Got plenty to send you.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

Thank you.

Member of the Public - Ryan Schallenberg

I appreciate that.

Linda Lee

Thank you.

Linda Lee

Sorry, go ahead.