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Public Testimony

Cherise DeBose (TWU Political Director) testifies opposing ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 3:04:06 · 3 min 31 sec

Cherise DeBose, Political Director for TWU Local 100, criticizes the legislative process, says council members signed on before hearing from workers, raises Fifth Amendment property concerns, and questions sanctuary funding and horse placement plans.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Good afternoon, Chair Shulman, committee members, staff.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

My name is Cherise DeBose.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

I'm the political director for TWU Local 100.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

We appreciate the opportunity to be able to testify today, but I would be remiss if I did not begin to express our disappointment with this legislative process.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Many members of this council have chose to co-sponsor Intro 943 before ever sitting down with the workers whose lives would forever be changed by this legislation.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Before speaking with the TWU, before hearing from the families who have devoted generations to this industry, and before this public hearing was even held, many council members had already decided the outcome.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

This is not what meaningful public participation looks like.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Public hearings should exist to inform legislative decisions.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Not simply ratified decisions that have already been made like a kangaroo court.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Our members deserve due process.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

They deserve to be heard before the city council votes to eliminate their livelihoods.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

You say that people don't want this business, but this business has survived two pandemics.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

The Civil War, Superstorm Sandy, there's so many things that occurred in this city, and this business is still here.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits government from taking private property for public use without just compensation.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Nobody can say what's going to happen to them financially and what will happen to the contributions that they have already made and the investments that they've already made to operate this business that was regulated by this city of New York.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Where are the sanctuaries that you speak of?

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

How many horses have been committed to placements?

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Who is paying for the decades of feed, veterinary care, transportation, and maintenance?

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Those questions remain unanswered.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Our members consider these horses part of their families.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

They do not want them sold at auctions or placed in uncertain circumstances.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Ironically, this council recognized in this year's budget just how expensive animal care can be by funding assistance for low-income pet owners.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Central Park belongs to every New Yorker.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

It does not belong to the exclusively wealthy donors and advocacy organizations or private conservancies.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

We offer our condolences as well to the Mahjong family.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

But last year, also a pilot named Sean Johnson, Augustine Escobar, his wife, and three children died in a helicopter that crashed in the Hudson, celebrating one of their children's ninth birthdays.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

You can never say what could happen.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

I pray to God that we all could.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Not have these tragedies and avoid them.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

But that's the fabric of our lives.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

We can't avoid these tragedies.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

It's not, and I'm not holding any industry accountable for any wrongdoing.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

But like Ramach, their deaths are also very tragic and heartbreaking.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

But their deaths have not been tied to a political agenda.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Transit workers work very hard and some of them have died on their jobs along with other members in the labor movement.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

And sometimes we don't even get an offer of condolence from anybody that's sitting in this room.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

And I pray that that also change.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

I appreciate your time today to testify.

Member of the Public - Cherise DeBose

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

We have some questions by the council members.

Lynn C. Schulman

First, Speaker Menon has questions.