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Public Testimony

Christina Hansen (TWU shop steward) testifies opposing ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 2:55:05 · 4 min 18 sec

Christina Hansen, TWU shop steward and carriage driver for 20 years, testifies about the industry's long history, safety record, and her personal bond with her horse Sherman. She questions what job the city would give her and asks about working with police horses.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

All right.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

My name is Christina Hansen.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

I am the shop steward for TW Local 100 Central Park Carriages and a carriage driver.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

I have been a commercial carriage driver in Philadelphia and in New York City for 20 years this month.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

And I've been here in New York for 14 years.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

It's hard to fit a 5,000.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

four centuries of history and decades of experience into two minutes of testimony, but at least it's longer than a TikTok.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

It's good to be here in the same room with all of you, in person and not online in some comment section.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

Horses helped build this very building 200 years ago.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

There's George Washington and his horse, old Blueskin.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

But at the same time that we in this industry have been devastated, have been mourning the Mahajan family, we are now being forced to fight for our own.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

I have noticed that many people in this room have spent more time creating content for social media on this issue than coming to the stables, petting our horses, and meeting our drivers.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

And unlike the last panel that purports to speak for us,

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

In the rest of this hearing, you are going to hear from our drivers, our carriage owners, and you can hear from them about how much they love their horses, and who are other people to speak for our horses than the people that know them best.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

Horse-drawn cabs have been licensed and regulated by the city since 1692.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

Our rates have been set by the city since 1813.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

And we've been giving rides in Central Park since the day the park opened.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

So that is the rental horse licensing and protection law, which was enacted in 1981.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

We are the definition of a lawful, regulated business, and our safety statistics bear it out.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

If anything has changed in...

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

Burrow.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

President Hoylman's testimony in the last 40 years is smartphones.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

People are disconnected from reality, but at the same time they can post things they see online all the time.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

History has shown us that absolutely horrible things have been done in the name of progress, and many beautiful things are destroyed.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

Opponents of the carriage industry have weaponized push polls to make everybody say, oh, the majority of New Yorkers want this band.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

That has not been borne out by our unions polls of Central Park users.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

70% of Central Park users found that carriage horses add beauty and charm to the park, and 60% opposed a ban when this was done last fall.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

My real-world experience bears this out.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

The smiles we see from people in Hell's Kitchen, the delight in children petting horses in the park, that's real-world experience.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

We were closed for six months during the pandemic.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

We went into the pandemic with 68 carriages and three stables, and we came out with 68 carriages and three stables.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

Think of all the New York City businesses that we lost, and now you're sitting here and trying to lose another one.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

There's been a lot of talk about job retraining, workforce development.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

I am a horse person.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

I grew up in Lexington, Kentucky, horse capital of the world.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

I own a horse.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

His name is Sherman.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

He's 12 years old.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

I expect him to live for another 20 years.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

And this bill is telling me that I can't go work with my horse in another place to pull a horse and carriage.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

And I would wonder then if I could have my horse as a rental riding horse in Central Park.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

The borough president just said his family's from Miller's Harness Company.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

Miller's Horse Company from Manhattan Saddlery started up riding horses in Central Park.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

What about the mounted unit?

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

Could I get a job with them in the stable or riding as a police officer?

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

Those horses are here in Midtown, in traffic, in the streets.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

They're owned by the city, but that's a good city job.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

You know, and that's what I am skilled at.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

I don't need to be told to go work in a hotel or something like that.

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

I am a horse person, so will the city be giving me a job with one of your police horses?

Member of the Public - Christina Hansen

And who's next?

Member of the Public - Edita Birnkrant

Dr.

Member of the Public - Edita Birnkrant

Cook?

Member of the Public - Gabriel Cook

Yes, can you hear me?

Member of the Public - Edita Birnkrant

Yeah.

Member of the Public - Gabriel Cook

Good afternoon.

Member of the Public - Gabriel Cook

First, I am so sorry for the tragedy that brings us all here today.