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Danielle testifies about witnessing horse incidents firsthand

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 3:55:02 · 2 min 43 sec

Danielle, a NYC resident, testifies about witnessing two horse incidents firsthand—a spooked horse nearly trampling her and the collapse and death of Denise—and says you cannot regulate instinct.

Member of the Public - Danielle

It's a very tough act to follow.

Member of the Public - Danielle

Danielle, go ahead.

Member of the Public - Danielle

You have two minutes.

Member of the Public - Danielle

Council members, thank you for the opportunity to testify.

Member of the Public - Danielle

And to the Mahajan family, I'm so sorry for your loss.

Member of the Public - Danielle

I am also so sorry for all of those who claim to mourn your loss, but do not even take the time to pronounce your name correctly.

Member of the Public - Danielle

My name is Danielle.

Member of the Public - Danielle

I'm a native New Yorker and a longtime Hell's Kitchen and Upper West Side resident.

Member of the Public - Danielle

When previously living on 57th and 10th, I'd watch those horses make the trek to Central Park, have them be spooked by cars honking, bikes cutting them off, and overall just not in a comfortable state.

Member of the Public - Danielle

When now living near the Museum of Natural History, every day I walk my two dogs in the park daily, multiple times a day.

Member of the Public - Danielle

In the last 13 months, there have been eight serious incidents, and I have been firsthand witness to two of them.

Member of the Public - Danielle

On September 1st, the horse Samson was spooked by loud sounds, and myself and my dogs were part of the pedestrians that needed to jump out of the way to not get trampled.

Member of the Public - Danielle

Had my instinct not been quick enough, I would have been trampled.

Member of the Public - Danielle

My heart is dropping just thinking about that experience.

Member of the Public - Danielle

And I soon watched as Samson the horse then smashed into a stop sign.

Member of the Public - Danielle

On June 9th, I was walking with my dogs and saw the horse Denise collapse.

Member of the Public - Danielle

And while there is something awful about witnessing an animal dying, there is nothing more horrible than watching two of my animals react to another animal dying in front of them.

Member of the Public - Danielle

I am here today because in my interview with various media outlets, including CBS, ABC, on September 1st, and in my interview on June 9th, I quoted that it was only a matter of time until that stop sign was a human or a child.

Member of the Public - Danielle

I invite you to look up that footage and see that footage of me saying that with fear in my eyes of what might happen.

Member of the Public - Danielle

And on June 16th, I was leaving the park when friends had texted me about the incident and the critical condition of Ramange.

Member of the Public - Danielle

I am also here because as a dog owner, if my animal is hurt, my instinct is to react.

Member of the Public - Danielle

And in both of those incidents, I know I'm short on time, but I think it's important to express that my instinct as an animal owner and someone who genuinely cares for animals is to react to them in danger.

Member of the Public - Danielle

While I am not speaking to all horse carriage drivers, I am speaking to those two in front of me that I saw.

Member of the Public - Danielle

I saw them have complete apathy for the situation, and then as soon as the news cameras came on, have staged performance of care.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay, if you could wrap up.

Member of the Public - Danielle

I will wrap up.

Member of the Public - Danielle

While those in opposition might say it was one off in decades of Romange's tragedy and the industry just needs to be regulated, my perspective is that you cannot regulate instinct.

Member of the Public - Danielle

It was instinct for Romange to protect his mother.

Member of the Public - Danielle

It was instinct for horses to be spooked, to be bolted.

Member of the Public - Danielle

And if this legislation is not passed, it is only a matter of time that another human will lose its life.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay, thank you.

Member of the Public - Danielle

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Go ahead.