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Dr. Jim Keene (veterinarian) testifies supporting ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 6:06:03 · 2 min 4 sec

Dr. Jim Keene, a veterinarian with 38 years of experience, testifies about evaluating the carriage industry firsthand, concluding horses should be phased out, and referencing Dr. Kulikowski's findings of musculoskeletal injuries and dental disease.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

Good afternoon, Chair and members of the Council.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

Thank you for the opportunity to speak in support of Intro 943.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

My name is Dr.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

Jim Keem.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

I'm a veterinarian from South Dakota with 38 years of experience as a large animal vet.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

I'm Director of Veterinary Science for the Center of Humane Economy.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

I practiced, conducted USDA research, taught at three veterinary schools.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

Four years ago, I came to New York City to evaluate the carriage industry firsthand.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

I visited the stables, observed the horses at work in Central Park and on the highways.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

I spoke with both drivers and opponents.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

My conclusion was clear then and even clear today.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

Carriage horses should be phased out in Manhattan.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

As others have said, horses are prey animals whose instinctive response to perceived danger is to flee.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

That instinct cannot be trained away or regulated away.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

In one of the world's busiest urban environments with constant traffic, sirens, construction, crowds, heat, hard pavement, runaways, and serious accidents are not anomalies that are predictable.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

Horses evolved to graze, roam on soft ground, and live socially in herds, not to pull heavy carriages throughout congested streets and spend their nights confined alone in small stalls without turnout.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

In December 2025, independent equine vet Dr.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

Craig Kowalski, who testified earlier today, examined more than 12 licensed carriage horses.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

As he mentioned, they had multiple recurring musculoskeletal injuries, tendon and ligament disease, harness sores, and dental disease.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

He concluded that several horses could not be certified fit for work because the owners refused standard trotting exams for lameness and blood work needed to detect possible pain-masking meds.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

Finally, this is also a public safety issue of the tragic death of Ramanche, together with

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

the numerous carriage horse accidents over the years that have been mentioned today, demonstrate the risk of placing a frightened 1,000- and 2,000-pound prey animal in the middle of Manhattan traffic.

Member of the Public - Jim Keene

For the welfare of these horses and the safety of the public, I respectfully urge you to pass Romax Law.