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Helen David (pedicab driver) testifies supporting ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 6:03:48 · 2 min 15 sec

Helen David, a pedicab driver for 23 years, testifies about witnessing the industry from inside the stables, says some carriage drivers were former pedicab drivers who could return, and disputes the claim that Denise died from a poisonous plant rather than exhaustion.

Member of the Public - Helen David

All right, yeah.

Member of the Public - Helen David

So I'm Helen David, and I'm a tour guide in Central Park.

Member of the Public - Helen David

So I'm a pedicab driver for 23 years in New York City.

Member of the Public - Helen David

So I started in 2004, June.

Member of the Public - Helen David

And when I initially started, I used to park my pedicab in a stable on 52nd Street.

Member of the Public - Helen David

So I've seen countless of things that I wasn't supposed to see as a pedicab driver in a horse stable.

Member of the Public - Helen David

This is back in 06, 07.

Member of the Public - Helen David

And now working in Central Park alongside some of these horse and carriage drivers behind me,

Member of the Public - Helen David

I just want to make it clear to the council that some of those guys were pedicab drivers, so if they need to be transitioned to another job, they can always go back to the pedicab, because that's where we started off as pedicab drivers.

Member of the Public - Helen David

And it's safer in Central Park.

Member of the Public - Helen David

And also another thing I want to make clear, the day Dennis'horse died, that horse was out for a long time, for more than what it's supposed to be, because 5 o'clock is when they're supposed to change the...

Member of the Public - Helen David

shift for the horses to go back to the stable.

Member of the Public - Helen David

But the incident happened way after Dennis was supposed to be at a stable.

Member of the Public - Helen David

So I work alongside the horse and carriage driver, so I see it every single day.

Member of the Public - Helen David

I'm in Central Park sometimes 6.30 in the morning, and I'm there up until 8 o'clock.

Member of the Public - Helen David

So I see in and out of what is going on in Central Park with the horse and carriage.

Member of the Public - Helen David

I'm not here to bash anybody.

Member of the Public - Helen David

I'm here to speak of the truth, and I don't want anybody to go out there and try to blame the Central Park Conservancy that the horse, you know, ate a poisonous plant when it was actually exhaustion because I was there the day Dennis died.

Member of the Public - Helen David

I know what time that horse came in, and then when the horses passed away, I was home because that horse was supposed to have left the park before I did.

Member of the Public - Helen David

So therefore, I'm just here to let you guys know that we are out here.

Member of the Public - Helen David

The pedicab industry is represented, and if we are to save the city and our tourists in New York City, we have to do the right thing by the city, by the people that live in New York City, and then the horse and carriage industry.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you so much.

Lynn C. Schulman

You may continue.

Lynn C. Schulman

Go ahead.

Lynn C. Schulman

You, sir.