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Eleanor Malbegot (Humane Society of NY) testifies supporting ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 5:42:34 · 2 min 22 sec

Eleanor Malbegot, legal counsel for the Humane Society of NY, testifies about drafting the 1981 rental horse law, noting that even after passage, four horses dropped dead in summer heat, and that reforms have not worked.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

I'm Eleanor Malbegot.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

I'm legal counsel for the Humane Society of New York right here on East 59th Street.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

And I'm here to testify in favor of Intro 943.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

I'll even go back almost 50 years.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

I drafted the rental horse licensing and protection law, working with then-Councilmember Stern and Tony Olivieri, Morton Povman.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

So these are like way back when.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

At that time, I was with the ASPCA.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

We got the law passed.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

We thought, great.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

Things will get better.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

There was concern about lame horses, overworking horses, accidents, horses working in traffic, and horses working in severe weather conditions.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

Even after the law passed, four horses dropped dead, literally, in New York City during the summer heat.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

So concern for the horses, not so much in terms of the industry.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

And even now, when I was listening to the testimony, I was listening to the health department say how many animals, how many horses they suspended.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

Because of the heat.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

I'm thinking, why did they even have to suspend the horses?

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

Why were they out there at all?

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

We all know what the weather report is.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

Why would they even be out there and having to wait to be suspended?

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

And just one last thing, because I,

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

We all know about the accidents, and I don't want to be too repetitive in the other cities that have passed laws, but...

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

Another conversation I had with Councilmember Stern, who became Parks Commissioner Stern, after we had worked together on the city legislation, was there were efforts to have the horses go to the park.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

And he said to me, no, he said, as much as he was an advocate for the horses, he said, this is just going to bring all of the terrible problems we have in the city streets to the park with the pedestrians, with the bicyclists, with the cars, with everything.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

And he was right.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

Like how many more accidents must there be before we do something now?

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

The reform has not worked.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

The regulations have not worked.

Member of the Public - Eleanor Malbegot

So it's time, and we thank you very much.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you.