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Menin questions on phase-out timeline and worker transition plans

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 0:48:22 · 1 min 47 sec

Menin asks about the phase-out timeline, administration plans for worker support, and whether specific worker protection language is being recommended. Ortiz says the administration is open to discussing timeline and will provide language.

Julie Menin

Okay.

Julie Menin

How many workers would be affected by the ban?

Julie Menin

We obviously know how many licenses DCWP has.

Julie Menin

We've been looking at the open data portal, but I want to get on the record this information, which is why I'm asking these questions.

Julie Menin

So how many workers would be affected by a ban, including carriage drivers, stable workers, and other staff?

Carlos Ortiz

I apologize, Mr.

Carlos Ortiz

Speaker.

Carlos Ortiz

I don't know if I have the stable worker numbers.

Carlos Ortiz

I do know that there are 208 licensed horse-drawn carriage drivers.

Carlos Ortiz

My understanding from public reporting is that approximately 170 of them are engaging in the work day in, day out.

Julie Menin

Okay.

Julie Menin

And what does the administration's view in terms of the...

Julie Menin

Proper phase-out timeline that both agencies would recommend?

Julie Menin

Do you agree with the language in the bill currently?

Julie Menin

Do you believe differently?

Carlos Ortiz

I think, and just for me to confer with my colleague, I don't think we have concerns necessarily with the phase-out timeline itself.

Carlos Ortiz

I think a setting such as this, to hear from the stakeholders, whether that's industry and workers and other advocates, is an important step in the legislative process to know if the timeline is appropriate.

Julie Menin

Okay.

Julie Menin

And what are the administration's plans to support the workers?

Carlos Ortiz

Well, I think we're having ongoing conversations with our partners in labor about what outcomes we can support, what outcomes we can, what we can do to support outcomes for workers.

Carlos Ortiz

I'm sorry.

Carlos Ortiz

I've heard of your public comments recently as well, Speaker, about securing employment for workers as well.

Carlos Ortiz

I think for us, all options are on the table.

Carlos Ortiz

We want to make sure that this works.

Julie Menin

Okay.

Julie Menin

Okay, I'm going to turn it back over to Councilmember Shulman.

Julie Menin

Thank you.