Skip to content
Council Discourse

NYC Council meetings, chaptered and linked by time.

Created by Uzair Qadir

Inspired by Vikram Oberoi's City Meetings

Q&A

Narcisse questions on horse rehoming and worker transition specifics

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 1:22:24 · 3 min 13 sec

Narcisse asks about horse rehoming plans, financial responsibility, stable hand transition eligibility, and whether workforce development is a real pipeline or just resume workshops. Schiff and Ortiz respond on bill provisions and worker inclusion.

Mercedes Narcisse

Thank you, Chair.

Mercedes Narcisse

And first and foremost, thank you, Madam Speaker.

Mercedes Narcisse

And the family, I feel you.

Mercedes Narcisse

Thank you so much for being here, being present, and using the time to let us know what's going on with you.

Mercedes Narcisse

It's a difficult time.

Mercedes Narcisse

And as a mother of four, I can feel you sitting here.

Mercedes Narcisse

Now, is it difficult for me to even

Mercedes Narcisse

Let me go to the question.

Mercedes Narcisse

This is, you know, listening to you is just in my head.

Mercedes Narcisse

What is the administration's plan for the horses themselves?

Mercedes Narcisse

Rehoming, sanctuaries, placement oversight, and who is financially responsible for that transition?

Mercedes Narcisse

That's one.

Mercedes Narcisse

The bill that we have here on our hands, focus on the license of the drivers, what happens to the stable, I mean,

Mercedes Narcisse

the stable hands and other workers, local 100 and the union have said the industry supports.

Mercedes Narcisse

Are they eligible for any of this transition benefits?

Mercedes Narcisse

Third, what specific industries or role is DCWP targeting for placement

Mercedes Narcisse

Is this a real pipeline into union jobs or a genetic resume workshop programs?

Mercedes Narcisse

Do you know?

Corinne Schiff

I'll start with the questions about the horses, and the bill is quite detailed, directing the health department to collect information about where the horses

Corinne Schiff

might go and to provide that information to the owners and then requiring that the owners certify to the disposition of the horses and provide that certification to the health department.

Corinne Schiff

We are still reviewing those provisions and to determine exactly how we would do that should the bill pass.

Corinne Schiff

And as Deputy Commissioner Ortiz mentioned, and I agree, we would work very closely with the Mayor's Office of Animal Welfare on that.

Carlos Ortiz

And I would add, Council Member, you know, the bill already describes a workforce development program for horse-drawn carriage drivers and other workers engaged in the business of operating such horse-drawn cabs.

Carlos Ortiz

To me, I mean, I'm encouraged that the Council has already drafted or is keeping these workers in mind, both the drivers.

Carlos Ortiz

and the stable hands, I think we want to make sure that that is preserved throughout a final version of the bill in whichever mechanism we decide to be able to support the workers.

Mercedes Narcisse

Tough one.

Mercedes Narcisse

What could I have done here in this situation to prevent the death of this young man?

Corinne Schiff

As the speaker eloquently articulated, this was preventable.

Corinne Schiff

The council has set out a law that clearly says that a horse must be attended to, cannot be left unattended.

Mercedes Narcisse

And one life is too many.

Mercedes Narcisse

Thank you so much.

Mercedes Narcisse

Thank you, Chair.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you very much.