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Nathan Semmel testifies remotely on need for courage to act

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 8:39:30 · 2 min 31 sec

Nathan Semmel, a District 7 resident, testifies remotely about texting with Majority Leader Abreu who said 'took me some time' on this issue, and warns that 'took me some time' will never be an acceptable response in the future.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

Good evening, my name is Nathan Semmel.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

My wife, Meredith, and I are District 7 residents in Manhattan.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

Our representative is Majority Leader Shaun-Abreu.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

When we saw the video that Leader-Abreu posted of his goddaughter, Jada, asking the council to ban horse carriages, we were thrilled.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

I immediately texted him to thank him, and he responded right away.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

He wrote, my man, took me some time, exclamation point.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

That phrase took me some time, got me thinking.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

Councilmember O'Brie was a good man and a wonderful council member.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

And I suspect from our conversations over the years that he's never been comfortable with horse carriages.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

However, the conviction just wasn't quite there to stick his neck out.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

And I suspect there are many members of this committee and council who have felt the same way.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

Good people, uncomfortable with horse carriages in a modern urban environment, but for various reasons not quite uncomfortable enough to do something about it.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

To do the right thing.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

And I responded to the council member and I said, that's okay, the arc of progress bends towards justice.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

And he immediately wrote back, yes, sir.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

I'm not here to litigate the past or ask anyone what took them so long or sit in judgment.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

I'm here to litigate the past.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

Here to celebrate being on the precipice of justice.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

But I do so with a message to those members who still find themselves not ready or unwilling.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

There are now flashing red lights with conspicuous warning signs screaming two things.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

Horses in New York City parks and streets are unpredictable, and horse carriages kill people.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

Members, took me some time will never be an acceptable response or explanation in the future.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

To those members who for years have been willing to protect the horses, I thank you.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

To those who it took some time.

Lynn C. Schulman

Time expired.

Lynn C. Schulman

Just summarize.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

Okay.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

I'm equally grateful.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

And one more sentence.

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

To the gentleman who earlier said that advocates are exploiting Romach's death, you don't get to tell people who have warned for years of this tragedy happening that they are exploiting

Member of the Public - Nathan Semmel

when it does.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

Thank you very much.

Lynn C. Schulman

Next.