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Nancy DeJesus (80-year-old New Yorker) testifies remotely supporting ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 8:42:01 · 2 min 28 sec

Nancy DeJesus, an 80-year-old Manhattan resident, testifies remotely supporting the ban, citing 60% polling support, listing dead horses, and arguing the bill protects both horses and workers through transition programs.

Lynn C. Schulman

Nancy DeJesus.

Lynn C. Schulman

You may begin.

Lynn C. Schulman

Nancy DeJesus.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

I'm here.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

I was trying to unmute.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

Sorry.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

Thank you for the opportunity to speak.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

That's okay.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

My name is Nancy DeJesus, and I am an 80-year-old New Yorker who currently lives in Manhattan, and I'm here to support Intro 943, Romanticist Law.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

Tales of old have romanticized the role of horse and carriage in battles, love stories, and adventures.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

While these images are reflected upon with a nostalgic wistfulness, they do not reflect the reality of our present lives.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

We are in a modern world with different challenges, dangers, and an evolved sense and understanding of what safety for all creatures looks like today.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

This is evidenced in polls such as one taken just this month by the Central Park Conservancy, which reported that 60% of New Yorkers support a ban on horse carriages.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

It's also reflected in the numerous and unavoidable tragedies that have occurred year after year.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

Horses like Ryder and Denise have lived lives of endless brutality.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

They're only respite to retire to a concrete soul with minimal ventilation and no room to move.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

And they are gone.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

And just last month, an 18-year-old visitor to our city, Romach, died during a family vacation on a carriage ride trying to save his mother when the horse carriage then became frightened as a direct result of the dangers and realities.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

of our present time, honking horns, relentless traffic, and concrete paths.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

And folks will rightfully ask what will happen to the drivers.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

The provisions in Intro 943 not only ensure safety for the horses and transition out of this cruel and outdated practice, but will also utilize and oversee a workforce development program that will assist these drivers to securely transition to other employment.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

Horses will no longer be victimized and used to create a false sense of nostalgia in our city.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

No more innocent lives will be lost and drivers will not lose their jobs.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

Please, endless, don't let the loss of a young man's life and so many horses be without consequence.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

Those who seek to romanticize this practice can find it in the works of literature from long ago where it should remain.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

I implore the members of the City Council to vote in favor of Romach's law and take direct action to prevent additional suffering and loss of life.

Member of the Public - Nancy DeJesus

Please be compassionate and do the right thing.

Lynn C. Schulman

Time expired.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you very much.

Lynn C. Schulman

All right, next is Monica Sharma.