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Paola Gaviño (Tamerlan Sanctuary) testifies supporting ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 6:42:18 · 3 min 7 sec

Paola Gaviño, board member of Tamerlan Sanctuary and Hispanic immigrant, testifies in Spanish and English that immigrant workers deserve better, safer jobs with protections, and that we don't have to choose between protecting animals or workers.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

My name is Paola Gaviño, and I'm also here as a board member of Tamerlan Sanctuary, where we take care of rescue animals, including horses.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

But I'm also here as an Hispanic immigrant.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

So I'm going to speak Spanish a little bit.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

I will translate because my testimony is somehow connected to the experience as an immigrant.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

So, as an immigrant Latina, I understand perfectly what it means to come to this country, looking for new opportunities, working hard to have a better life.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

But precisely because I understand that, I think all the immigrant workers from all the countries deserve something better.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Jobs that are safe, worthy, with a stable future.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Muchos de estos trabajadores de carruajes no tienen protecciones básicas, no tienen un salario garantizado, beneficio, seguro de desempleo, licencia por enfermedad o compensación si se lesiona.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Son clasificados solo como contratistas, no como empleados protegidos.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Esta transición propuesta ofrece exactamente eso, trabajos protegidos.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

No tenemos que escoger entre proteger a los animales o a los trabajadores inmigrantes.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Tenemos y debemos que proteger a todos.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Les pido que lo apoyen.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Como a la inmigrante latina,

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

I don't know how, I know exactly how it's like coming to this country and look for better opportunities, working hard to build a better life.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

But precisely because of that, I believe all immigrant workers deserve better, safe jobs, stable futures.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Many of these carriage horses don't have that.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

So they don't have no guaranteed salary, benefits, employment, insurance, health care, workers'compensation if they get injured.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

They are classified as independent contractors rather than protected employees.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

This transition proposed here offers them that.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Jobs with real protection.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

So at the sanctuary, okay, I'm gonna wrap it up.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Horses are not machines.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

They deserve to be retired and we'll have to choose between immigrant workers or protecting the animals.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

We should protect them both.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

So please pass from Ansh Law.

Member of the Public - Paola Gaviño

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you very much.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay, so now I'm going to recall some of the names I called before.

Lynn C. Schulman

If they're not here, Gabriel Stubert.

Lynn C. Schulman

Oh, Gabriel, I'm sorry.

Lynn C. Schulman

Grace Choi.

Lynn C. Schulman

Grace Choi here.

Lynn C. Schulman

Tara Lauren Clinney.

Lynn C. Schulman

Marie Carlissimo.

Lynn C. Schulman

Kirk Miller.

Lynn C. Schulman

April Lang.

Lynn C. Schulman

I'm sorry, what?

Lynn C. Schulman

Oh, okay.

Lynn C. Schulman

Which one?

Lynn C. Schulman

Who's the last person?

Lynn C. Schulman

Cindy Finch.

Lynn C. Schulman

Cindy Finch?

Lynn C. Schulman

I'm sorry, what was your name again?

Lynn C. Schulman

I'm sorry.

Lynn C. Schulman

April.

Lynn C. Schulman

Oh, April.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay, go ahead, April.

Lynn C. Schulman

I'm sorry.