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Public Testimony

April Lang (animal advocate) testifies supporting ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 6:45:25 · 2 min 47 sec

April Lang, NYC resident and animal advocate, testifies that horses were necessary before the 20th century but no longer are, that regulations aren't followed, and that not all traditions deserve to continue.

Member of the Public - April Lang

Hi there, my name is April Lang and I'm a president of New York City and an animal advocate.

Member of the Public - April Lang

So this is just the facts.

Member of the Public - April Lang

Horses were a necessary mode of transportation prior to the 20th century.

Member of the Public - April Lang

They no longer are.

Member of the Public - April Lang

Prior to the 20th century, horses were not breathing in the exhaust from cars, dodging traffic, nor in danger of colliding with automobiles.

Member of the Public - April Lang

Horses do this quote-unquote work because they are forced to, as has always been the case, not out of choice.

Member of the Public - April Lang

In spite of what we think we know about horses, there is not one person who can say with absolute certainty that the horses are content pulling a 900 to 1500 pound carriage, which is then loaded with passengers,

Member of the Public - April Lang

whether that be on a temperate day or through the heat, cold, snow, and rain.

Member of the Public - April Lang

Note, regulations are not often followed, monitored, or enforced.

Member of the Public - April Lang

Due to a more highly evolved sense of smell, sight, and hearing, horses can and do get triggered by sight, sounds, and smells, which are imperceptible to humans, but which signal danger to them.

Member of the Public - April Lang

This means they can and do bolt unexpectedly, putting themselves, the driver, and any passengers or pedestrians in harm's way.

Member of the Public - April Lang

While carriage drivers...

Member of the Public - April Lang

need and deserve to work, like everyone, neither they nor anyone else can count on permanent job security.

Member of the Public - April Lang

Industries change, and as so as do consumer preferences.

Member of the Public - April Lang

All of us need to adapt to that reality.

Member of the Public - April Lang

If any visitors to New York end up missing the carriage rides, they'll get over it, because our great city has a plethora of things to see, activities to engage in, and opportunities to make lasting memories.

Member of the Public - April Lang

The horses, however, will not get over the wear and tear of the bodies of this industry and genders.

Member of the Public - April Lang

And those humans injured or killed when horses bolt or collide with cars or pedestrians will not soon get over their losses.

Member of the Public - April Lang

Not all traditions deserve to continue.

Member of the Public - April Lang

Traditions are created by people and can be changed by people.

Member of the Public - April Lang

And when a tradition harms an animal or a person, it must be ended.

Member of the Public - April Lang

The horse-drawn carriage industry in New York is one tradition that needs to be put out to pasture.

Member of the Public - April Lang

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you very much.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay, so thank you to this panel.

Lynn C. Schulman

Really appreciate it.

Lynn C. Schulman

Now I'm going to call up John D.

Lynn C. Schulman

Leonardo and Sam Moon, I think it is.

Lynn C. Schulman

Are they here?

Lynn C. Schulman

Oh, okay.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay, go ahead.

Lynn C. Schulman

Just state your name for the record.