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Wong questions TWU on workforce training provisions

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 3:28:52 · 2 min 42 sec

Wong asks about workforce training provisions and notes this is the first hearing on the bill. Chiarello says he hasn't seen workforce development details and questions what jobs drivers would transition to.

Lynn C. Schulman

Council Member Wong.

Phil Wong

Yeah, I think it's a fair question that how many members are dues paying carriage drivers.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

So I'll answer it exactly as I answered it before.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I do not have the treasurer's report in front of me.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

We have 150 members.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

Most of them are here today.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

If you'd like them to stand up, we could do that.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I do not see what the correlation is to this bill.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I don't see what they're paying, what their health benefit is.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

We are looking to preserve their jobs.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

That's what unions do.

Phil Wong

But there is workforceman training on this bill.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I haven't seen any of it, so I can't speak on that.

Member of the Public - Angel

But go ahead.

Phil Wong

But there is workforce training for these horse-drawn carriage drivers.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

As I stated earlier, these men and women are in the horse carriage industry.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I don't know what type of industry is in the workplace development.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

I haven't been a part of it.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

But I don't think you're going to have anything close.

Member of the Public - John Chiarello

A hotel host or...

Member of the Public

Casino worker is not going to be a job that they're adapt to.

Member of the Public

So unless you have something that I don't know about, feel free because I don't know what it is.

Member of the Public

There's been no discussion with Local 100 about what that particular job is.

Member of the Public

And workforce development is a lovely word, but I don't know what it is.

Phil Wong

Yeah, my predecessor, Robert Holden, when he introduced the bill, he asked for hearings.

Phil Wong

He'd been asking for these hearings.

Lynn C. Schulman

Councilmember Wong asked a question.

Phil Wong

Okay, the question is, I was involved.

Member of the Public

Bob Holden likes to put TW in his mouth for some reason, and I don't know what his interests are, but...

Member of the Public

He's, you know, the past council, but if you have a question, I'll answer it.

Phil Wong

There was never a hearing about this until today.

Phil Wong

Is that right?

Member of the Public

I remember in September I came to a hearing.

Lynn C. Schulman

Well, all right.

Lynn C. Schulman

So move on.

Phil Wong

Relevance.

Lynn C. Schulman

Ask your questions, Council Member.

Phil Wong

Okay, well.

Phil Wong

I've been involved with the city council for several years, and this is the first hearing that I know of in this room regarding this bill.

Phil Wong

So, and I ask myself, how come there was never a hearing on this?

Phil Wong

Either the previous speaker never wanted a hearing, or there are people out there that just don't even want to discuss this.

Member of the Public

I would ask Bob Holden.

Lynn C. Schulman

Council Member, we're not arguing.

Lynn C. Schulman

Listen, ask them a question that relates to the union.

Lynn C. Schulman

Do not ask them about the legislation.

Phil Wong

Okay.

Phil Wong

I have no further questions.

Member of the Public

Thank you.

Phil Wong

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Councilmember Hanif.