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CM Banks Q&A: Mangin on 'kludgy' characterization of housing advocacy tools

New York City Council · Sep 1, 2026 · starts 2:06:54 · 2 min 3 sec

Banks quotes Mangin's article calling downzoning, CBAs, rent control, and affordable housing focus 'kludgy,' defined as awkward and poorly designed. Mangin clarifies all those tools are useful and essential, and his only point was that advocates should also push for more housing supply alongside those tools.

Chris Banks

In the same article, you characterize down zoning, community benefit agreements, the lengthy approval processes,

Chris Banks

rent control, and even a focus on affordable housing over other forms of development as a part of what you call kludgy, K-L-U-D-G-Y,

Chris Banks

approach by housing advocacy community.

Chris Banks

And when I looked up the definition of kludgy, I wanted to, it says kludgy is an informal adjective that describes something.

Chris Banks

awkward, poorly designed, clumsy, or patched together as a temporary fix.

Chris Banks

That's, I would say, that's a broad collection of policies and protections that tenants, housing advocates, and communities and elected officials have relied upon.

Chris Banks

What did you believe the housing advocacy community was getting wrong, and which of these views do you still hold today?

John Mangin

Thanks for the question.

John Mangin

So I believe that all of those things you mentioned are useful tools, some of them absolutely essential.

John Mangin

Things like community benefits agreements, rent stabilization, absolutely essential.

John Mangin

My only point there.

John Mangin

Was that we also need to be doing this other thing along with those things, which is ensuring that we are building enough housing to address increasing housing shortages.

John Mangin

The paper was not about New York City.

John Mangin

It was about cities across the country, an increasing number of which we're experiencing, are experiencing housing shortage that drive this range of policy issues that we deal with every day.

John Mangin

So while all those things you mentioned, CBAs, rent stabilization, et cetera, are extremely important, have their uses, my argument was that we, the housing advocacy community, also have to advocate for more housing of all types to address the housing shortage.

Chris Banks

Okay.