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Council Member Narcisse on staffing failures and building posting requirements

New York City Council · Sep 2, 2026 · starts 2:21:27 · 3 min 48 sec

Council Member Narcisse criticizes the failure to learn from Harlem and fill positions, and suggests posting cooling tower test results in buildings like elevator and restaurant inspection grades. Martin agrees there's merit to the idea and notes the new transparency measures.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you, Councilmember Narcisse.

Unidentified speaker

Good afternoon.

Unidentified speaker

Thank you, Commissioner and your team for being here.

Unidentified speaker

And thank you, Chair and Madam Speaker.

Unidentified speaker

What we have seen in Harlem, we did not learn.

Unidentified speaker

All what we do as medical professional, which you're a doctor, it's, I don't want anyone to die on my shift.

Unidentified speaker

That's what I would say all the time in the ER.

Unidentified speaker

No one should die, right?

Unidentified speaker

So I know you not taking it lightly because as a physician and your team is to prevent.

Unidentified speaker

But what I don't understand, why that...

Unidentified speaker

We had shorter staff, and I heard it from my colleagues as well.

Unidentified speaker

So why we never address that?

Unidentified speaker

Because we did not learn, and our whole life is to prevent.

Unidentified speaker

We did not learn from what took place in Harlem to make preventative approach to prevent people from dying.

Unidentified speaker

That's what bothers me.

Unidentified speaker

And I think we need to do much more than that.

Unidentified speaker

And I heard it from the speaker and, of course, from my colleagues.

Unidentified speaker

But I have some suggestions and some bills that maybe, because local

Unidentified speaker

law 159 requires building owners to test their cooling towers for Les Journées every 30.

Unidentified speaker

one days and disinfect them during the summer month.

Unidentified speaker

But that information go up.

Unidentified speaker

So now we posted an elevator inspection certificate where everyone can see that.

Unidentified speaker

So we post restaurant letters, grades and everything.

Unidentified speaker

Why we not doing that in a building to let folks know when

Unidentified speaker

the building been tested and what's the result?

Unidentified speaker

Because people want to take charge of their health.

Unidentified speaker

Am I correct?

Commissioner Martin

Yeah.

Commissioner Martin

So first let me respond to the piece around staffing.

Commissioner Martin

I disagree with your assertion, Councilmember.

Commissioner Martin

We do have 56 total budgeted positions for these water ecologists.

Commissioner Martin

50 of them are filled at this moment.

Commissioner Martin

So we do have six staff that we're hoping to bring in.

Commissioner Martin

And if you have recommendations, we would love to have the right person in one of those slots.

Commissioner Martin

Now, to talk about your idea, I think there's absolutely merit to your idea.

Commissioner Martin

And I think we should consider, we should follow up and talk about the details of that.

Commissioner Martin

You see what we're doing with regard to transparency is moving in the direction that you're describing, right, with the revamping and relaunching of our public website so individuals

Commissioner Martin

can put their address in and get a mapped feature of how their tower compares to others in their building with regard to Legionella sampling and Legionella history.

Commissioner Martin

So I think that there's certainly...

Commissioner Martin

conversation we had around this.

Unidentified speaker

Yeah, I would like to see it.

Unidentified speaker

I put the bill in and I would like to see it happen because people need to take one more question.

Unidentified speaker

What is the average cost to clean a cooling tower?

Unidentified speaker

And what is the average cost to disinfect a cooling tower?

Unidentified speaker

And what factors this cost?

Commissioner Martin

Yeah, that can depend on a whole range of factors, but it's in the thousands of dollars to clean a cooling tower.

Unidentified speaker

Okay, thank you.

Unidentified speaker

We're running out of time.

Unidentified speaker

I have more questions, but we need to make sure that we hire those folks.

Unidentified speaker

And we have 51 council members.

Unidentified speaker

You can send it to us, and we can promote it.

Unidentified speaker

So make sure that we have enough staffing so we can not say sorry to those that lost their life and their families.

Unidentified speaker

Thank you.