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Jennifer Ratner urges NYC to be global innovator on Legionnaires prevention

New York City Council · Sep 2, 2026 · starts 3:27:05 · 2 min 9 sec

Upper East Side resident Jennifer Ratner questions why NYC isn't a model for Legionnaires prevention given its density and cooling tower count. She calls for broader discussion of biocide use and urges NYC to be an innovator rather than following existing approaches.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

So my name's Jennifer Ratner.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

I'm a 60-year-old long-term resident of the Upper East Side.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

My dad is 86 and thankfully did not get Legionella, but lives in one of the buildings that was positive.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

And I just want to start with a question I hope will be asked in the future.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

So I hope that Legion...

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

Legionnaires disease experts will be asking in the future, wow, how come New York City has so many cooling towers, dealing with 100 plus degree hot summers, is so densely populated, and yet

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

every summer there are no deaths from Legionnaires disease, or very few in New York City, which

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

We should be the model and not just be following along and to the previous testimony, not just doing kind of the same thing year after year.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

I don't understand, you know, so there's prevention, and I really applaud your bill, which, you know, if enforced properly and some of the other bills will lead to more and more prevention moving forward so that we don't have the outbreaks.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

But then during the outbreak, you know, the health department had up this sign right over there before that said, why is biocide not good?

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

And they referred to the CDC.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

I actually wrote to the Legionella team at the CDC.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

Because it's very vague.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

Why couldn't we do, you know, we had just a small cluster, relatively few numbers of towers that were positive.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

Why not just pull the samples and disinfect?

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

I understand maybe you'll corrode the tanks.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

But for, you know, a huge number of them, we were doing that anyway.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

And, you know, waiting two days even for the PCR was probably too long in that.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

And I'm not an expert on it, but I think there should be much broader discussion and just not discount that.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

And so I think we should be the innovators here in New York.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Ratner

So not just thinking about testing and preventing, but just be the innovators and be the model for the whole globe.

Member of the Senate - Cordell Cleare

Thank you.

Member of the Senate - Cordell Cleare

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