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Feliz questions history of past 911 outages—2021 FireCAD and 2022 EPO button

New York City Council · Sep 9, 2026 · starts 0:51:13 · 4 min 19 sec

Feliz asks about past outages. FDNY Deputy Commissioner Charles Jackson explains the 2021 FireCAD launch had initial hiccups but is now stable, and EMS CAD is being replaced with a November 2027 target. The 2022 EPO button incident involved a contractor pressing emergency power-off buttons, causing a 15-minute EMS CAD outage; countermeasures including button covers and vendor restrictions were implemented.

Oswald J. Feliz

A few more questions on other outages that we've had in the past.

Oswald J. Feliz

Obviously, as we know, this is not a new issue.

Oswald J. Feliz

We've had many outages in the past few years.

Oswald J. Feliz

So a few questions on the history of the issue and also lessons that we've learned.

Oswald J. Feliz

The August 16th outage is not an isolated incident.

Oswald J. Feliz

In 2021,

Oswald J. Feliz

FDNY's FireCAD dispatch system had about three outages when it was first launched, again in 2021.

Oswald J. Feliz

Also during the same period, the EMS computer-aided dispatch system experienced three outages that same period for a total of about four and a half hours.

Oswald J. Feliz

In 2022, a private contractor

Oswald J. Feliz

triggered a shutdown of the FDNY dispatch system when they mistakenly pressed a shut off button.

Oswald J. Feliz

Also in September 2024, there was a seven hour outage in the Bronx due to a configuration error.

Oswald J. Feliz

So, you know, this is not the first time that it happens, but just curious about the lessons that we've learned.

Oswald J. Feliz

Can you go through each of those?

Oswald J. Feliz

Outages and just talk about the steps, what caused the outage and also measures that were put in place to make sure they don't happen again.

Oswald J. Feliz

I guess I'll repeat them again.

Oswald J. Feliz

I know I went through a whole list.

Oswald J. Feliz

The first one, the fire CAD dispatch system having three outages when it was first launched.

Lisa Gelobter

I will defer to my FDNY colleagues.

Charles Jackson

Good morning and thank you for your question.

Charles Jackson

I just want to separate the 911 call system from the dispatch systems because they're different, right?

Charles Jackson

So from the 911 system perspective, the F, oh, I'm sorry.

Charles Jackson

Press this button.

Charles Jackson

Can you hear me?

Charles Jackson

Okay.

Charles Jackson

So this was a 911 system outage, so it was a phone call outage, right?

Charles Jackson

So it's just separate from the dispatch systems.

Charles Jackson

In the 911 system, we're second chair, really.

Charles Jackson

We don't answer the phone.

Charles Jackson

You know, the calls come in, a PD call taker takes them, they say police, medical, or fire, and based on that response, they forward them to us.

Charles Jackson

Regarding your question on the dispatch systems, yes, in 2021, we implemented a new system.

Charles Jackson

We were replacing a fire dispatch system that had been in place for about 30 years prior.

Charles Jackson

There were some hiccups in the beginning, but things have been stable now for years on that system.

Charles Jackson

Regarding EMS CAD, that is another antiquated system that we are in the process of replacing now with a targeted go-live date of November 2nd, 2027.

Charles Jackson

In the interim, the system is stable.

Charles Jackson

It is being cared for.

Charles Jackson

And we haven't had an issue for some time now.

Oswald J. Feliz

All right, very good.

Oswald J. Feliz

And of course, you know, new systems, there's always glitches.

Oswald J. Feliz

Same question.

Oswald J. Feliz

I'll skip the second.

Oswald J. Feliz

Out is the third one.

Oswald J. Feliz

In 2022, a private contractor triggered a shutdown when they pressed the button.

Charles Jackson

Yeah, so that was there's a button called EPO in all data centers.

Charles Jackson

And I run.

Charles Jackson

Technically, the button is there for emergency services.

Charles Jackson

And what it does is it's supposed to be if there's a fire in a data center, the last person out is supposed to press that button.

Charles Jackson

And when they press that button, everything in the data center goes off.

Charles Jackson

A contractor that was doing some cabling work was leaving the facility, and they thought the button on the door was the release button.

Charles Jackson

They had pressed it.

Charles Jackson

Half the data center went out.

Charles Jackson

Then they pressed the other one, thinking they pressed the wrong one to get out of the door, and they pressed it, and then the other half of the data center went out.

Charles Jackson

During that disruption, though, the fire CAD dispatch system did not go out because it was in a data center that was not on that floor.

Charles Jackson

The EMS CAD system did go out for about 15 minutes because it's co-located between PSAC 1 and PSAC 2.

Charles Jackson

It was live in PSAC 1 at the moment.

Charles Jackson

It took us about 15 minutes to transfer things over because we didn't have power.

Charles Jackson

So we were able to recover pretty quickly.

Oswald J. Feliz

Okay, thank you for that information.

Oswald J. Feliz

Any measures put in place to make sure that something like that never happens again?

Oswald J. Feliz

I mean, if I'm correct, there was a 90-minute outage due to one button.

Charles Jackson

For certain things, yes.

Charles Jackson

So for the countermeasures put in place, there's like a lid over the button now.

Charles Jackson

There's all signs.

Charles Jackson

Everybody's clearly trained.

Charles Jackson

Vendors are just scored out.

Charles Jackson

Nobody's allowed near the button.

Charles Jackson

We take that very seriously.

Oswald J. Feliz

Okay, what about the September 2024 outage, a seven-hour outage in the Bronx as a result of a configuration error?