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Public Testimony

Michael Hickey testifies on hiring manager challenges

New York City Council · Sep 22, 2026 · starts 1:38:33 · 2 min 40 sec

Hickey, former NYC Public Schools leader, describes never being trained on civil service, waiting a year for lists, and the difficult rule-of-three hiring process.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

I can go first.

Shirley Aldebol

You can go first?

Shirley Aldebol

Okay, perfect.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

Thank you, Committee Chair.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

I'm Michael Hickey, Chief of Strategy and Operations for Citizens NYC, but I'm actually here to talk to you about my work as a former leader at the New York City Public Schools, where I helped to start up the community schools team and led the students in temporary housing team.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

Yeah, so this is more of my direct experience, lived experience with civil service.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

I wanted to start by saying that as a hiring manager overseeing hundreds of personnel, operating with dozens of vacancies at any given moment, I was never trained on how civil service works.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

I was never offered an explainer or a tutorial, never invited to a webinar or an onboarding session, was never given a clear point of contact in my own agency or at DCAS or any other city entity.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

Thank you.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

And everything I learned about civil service, I learned by reverse engineering and crowdsourcing and understanding of this Byzantine and Kafkaesque process.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

My team worked with homeless families, helping families get access to food, counseling, school supplies.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

It was very complex, specialized, trauma-informed work.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

The way a hiring process for our team went was like this.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

We would identify a vacancy, a title.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

We would assign headcount and budget.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

And then we'd wait, in my case, a year or more for a list to open up.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

We'd wait several more months before the hiring pool began.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

We would sit all day in a room with dozens of other hiring managers.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

We would all get to ask one question of an employee, and then we would have to make a decision then and there about whether or not we're going to make an offer to that candidate.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

We would be, you know, obviously this rule of three applies.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

So either take the warm body that's in front of you, whether they're qualified or not, or you wait until hopefully someone comes along.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

So obviously this is a really difficult, traumatizing process for someone that's trying to work with vulnerable families and feeling constantly like you're unable to meet the needs of those families because you don't have the trained personnel to do so.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

Those are limitations that were clearly set by the process of civil service itself rather than the ability to find candidates.

Shirley Aldebol

Thank you.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

I'm sorry?

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

Yes, it includes recommendations.

Member of the Public - Michael Hickey

You're welcome.