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Chair Joseph asks about expanding overseas programs; Holland discusses evolving offerings

New York City Council · Sep 29, 2026 · starts 1:30:54 · 1 min 23 sec

Chair Joseph asks if CUNY plans to expand overseas study abroad once systems improve. Holland says programs will evolve with demand and safety, citing past programs in Mali that are no longer feasible and current interest in Morocco as Middle East options shift.

Rita C. Joseph

Once you perfect the system, because I hear that across the board that you're looking to perfect this, do you plan to expand the overseas study abroad program?

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

I think expansion, I would say, I would like to think that the range of programs that we have is always going to evolve and respond to current opportunities.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

That will also involve some programs that...

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

Either there's not enough demand or safety in that area over a period of time.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

I will say in a previous position, I used to send students regularly to Mali.

Rita C. Joseph

Right.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

There were incredible opportunities.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

It was a visual and performing arts program.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

You could never do that now.

Rita C. Joseph

Right.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

So you have to find other opportunities and grow those opportunities.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

I think that the interest now in programs in Morocco is in part a reaction to...

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

To problem sending students to other locations in the Middle East.

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

We know that Hunter College, which has a very strong Arabic language program, has really struggled to find opportunities for its students, and they have been investigating opportunities in Morocco because their programs in Jordan

Member of the Public - Kim Holland

have not been feasible for a while.

Rita C. Joseph

Okay.

Rita C. Joseph

All right.

Rita C. Joseph

So we have work to do.