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Chair Joseph asks how CUNY recruits more students to study abroad

New York City Council · Sep 29, 2026 · starts 0:35:36 · 3 min 15 sec

Chair Joseph cites research that study abroad students are more likely to graduate on time and with higher GPAs, asking how important active recruitment is. Stephen Ferst says students are not running to the door and describes a national drop-off from 80% interest in high school to 6-7% participation in college.

Rita C. Joseph

A research study showed that study abroad students were 6% more likely to graduate in four years.

Rita C. Joseph

Very good.

Rita C. Joseph

And four percentage point more likely to graduate in six years than their peers who did not study abroad.

Rita C. Joseph

And further, that study abroad students graduated with a higher GPA.

Rita C. Joseph

If these findings are generally true for U.S.

Rita C. Joseph

College students, how important is it to

Rita C. Joseph

CUNY to make an active effort to recruit more students to study abroad.

Rita C. Joseph

Are these findings true for CUNY or you don't have an issue?

Rita C. Joseph

Everybody's running to your door to go study abroad.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

They are not running to our door.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

How do we get them there?

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

We recruit very, very broadly to get the largest number of students to study abroad.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

We know this is a high-impact practice.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

We know that studying abroad is good for these students.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

Ms.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

Allen has a bit more of the statistics on how many of our students do study abroad and some of those other impacts and where we follow national trends.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

I can tell you anecdotally, we do follow those national trends.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

Nationally, when you ask a high school student if they'd like to study abroad in college, you will get about 80% of the students raising their hand.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

When you ask if they expect to, you will get about 50% of the students raising their hand.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

When you ask them when they graduate college, if they did, you will get 6% to 7% of the students.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

The drop-off is tremendous.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

And it is on us.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

It is on all of us educators to build this into the curricula, to build room for this, to put this into major advising, and to show students that it's possible.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

At CUNY, we try really hard to do that by showing the examples of students who have gone before, by fundraising outside, by working on exchange programs.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

We have a lot of exchange programs.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

One of our campuses deals with almost 60.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

exclusively exchange programs and sends hundreds of students abroad that way, allowing students to pay that same CUNY rate at home as they would abroad, and that as they would if they stayed at home.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

And that has been a tremendous boon.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

Another campus has partnered with an external organization to give scholarships directly to their students, and that also has raised the numbers.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

CUNY needs to, each of our colleges need to create these partnerships to find ways to make it most affordable.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

That is probably the number one barrier for our students.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

And behind that is probably our academic barriers.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

We can work to lower those somewhat easier, actually, by talking to our departments around.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

But one other thing that works is simply by changing the culture.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

Simply by showing students that it is possible, by showing students that, oh, your peers have gone, everybody's going, you should go too.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

And although that does require the students then to sometimes find those funds, it's amazing.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

They do.

Member of the Public - Stephen Ferst

When they realize this is something important, when they realize this is something that helps their life move forward, helps their academic career and their professional career, they find the way.