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Epstein challenges social-media education; Ortiz cites field outreach

New York City Council · Oct 7, 2026 · starts 0:36:29 · 1 min 53 sec

Epstein says tourists are unlikely to check DCWP social media before taking a pedicab in another city. Ortiz agrees no single tool works and says DCWP's six-person outreach team reached nearly 100,000 New Yorkers and 30,000 people in the streets over the summer.

Harvey D. Epstein

Just to, and I'm going to, I know my colleagues have questions too, but to be honest, so

Harvey D. Epstein

When I'm visiting another city and I'm going to do a tourist-related thing, probably the last thing I'm doing is going to DCWP's social media page and be like, what is the industry?

Harvey D. Epstein

It's not a realistic scenario to say, I'm going to go to Prague and I'm going to get on a bus and I'm going to figure out what the city agency in a language I probably don't speak is going to say about what the rules are around.

Harvey D. Epstein

It just, I just, it belies like.

Carlos Ortiz

Well, I would say that any one of those tools by itself is not going to work.

Carlos Ortiz

But the purpose of using all these different tools is to create an ecosystem where we're trying to get this information out.

Carlos Ortiz

It is a process.

Carlos Ortiz

I've done community fairs now 10 years of my career, and it's hard work.

Carlos Ortiz

You're physically in the field trying to talk to people in real-time settings.

Carlos Ortiz

Not to say it's always perfect, but we work at it.

Harvey D. Epstein

Well, that's something like that physically in the field where people are, where these hubs are, is a really good way of getting to people instead of like using social media.

Harvey D. Epstein

Like, unfortunately, it's a staffing requirement, but it might be something that might really be beneficial to have people out and about, especially in areas where we see high concentrations of this issue happening.

Carlos Ortiz

We do, and we ourselves conduct an immense amount of outreach.

Carlos Ortiz

And just this year, I'd like to say that, or I consider that our outreach team is probably the best outreach team in the city.

Carlos Ortiz

And just this year, with a team of six, we've been able to reach nearly 100,000 New Yorkers.

Carlos Ortiz

Over the summer, reach...

Carlos Ortiz

30,000 people in the streets about worker rights and consumer rights, particularly in the peak of the tourist season.

Carlos Ortiz

We have been, myself and Haley, have been on the ground at Central Park and the theater district to talk to pedicab folks, to talk to tourists in the streets.

Carlos Ortiz

So it is work that we are actively putting in every day.

Harvey D. Epstein

All right.