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Public Testimony

Jennifer Levine testifies on shame, secrecy, and Interconnect support

New York City Council · Oct 16, 2026 · starts 3:21:51 · 5 min 6 sec

Jennifer Levine, board member of Interconnect, says she was told to keep her intersex variation secret and had no resources or support. She describes finding community through Interconnect and asks the Council to pass Intro 131.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Good afternoon.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

My name is Jennifer Levine and I use she, her, or they, them pronouns for a visual description.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I am a tall, frizzy-haired redhead.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I'm quite loud most of the time, but I'll try to keep it to a minimum today.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I'm an intersectional New Yorker and sitting board member of Interconnect, the nation's largest support network.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Today, I am speaking on my own behalf in support of Intro 131.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Like many marginalized groups, intersex people are not a monolith.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Each person has a unique story, unique life experience, and deals with their own set of difficulties, be they health-related, career-related, or otherwise.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Among the many stories I have heard in the six years I have worked with Interconnect, one theme has been consistent, shame, secrecy, and isolation.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

As a young person, after learning about my intersex variation, I was told by doctors, family members, and trusted leaders in my community to keep it a secret, to not tell any friends or extended family.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

To an extroverted teenager like me, this was tantamount to a punishment.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I was forbidden to discuss this thing I had learned about my body with my closest friends and allies.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

The word cancer was mentioned and a surgery was suggested, but my mother gave me the option to wait, and I did, and I'm glad I did.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

No additional resources were given.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

No support was provided.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

And no introductions to other young people like me were made.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Sorry, I lost my mother a few months ago.

Council Staff

There's a tissue box.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Speaking about her is very hard for me.

Council Staff

No, take your time, too.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

For years, I held on to this secret, describing it as my infertility issue.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I'm using air quotes.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Or my problem when discussing things with my mom.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

She would always say, but you haven't told anybody, right?

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

And I would always let her know yes.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Even as I entered college and then entered the workforce, I had this...

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I held this so quietly, even after revealing to trusted friends or partners that I may die from cancer at some point.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I never shared the full truth.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Lack of representation also led me to believe that my issue, again I'm using air quotes, must be rare and that people couldn't understand.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

It wasn't until years later.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Excuse me, I lost my place.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

It wasn't until years later when I realized how angry and frustrated I was all the time that I started to dig deeper.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I was so heavily medicalized that I thought only doctors could give me the answers I sought after.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

But when I found this support group that would become Interconnect, I realized there were other people like me.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I wasn't alone.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I met with a group of women, several of whom are still good friends today, and realized our stories may be different, but they were also so similar.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Once I attended my first national gathering for the group, I knew I wanted to help organize, provide resources, help with the outreach.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I could make a difference.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

To make sure people felt less alone, stigmatized, or shameful.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

The work of Interconnect, an organization that has existed in one form or another for 30 years, is vital.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

We provide support services, networking, programming, and online education to families, young people, parents, allies, and healthcare providers so they understand how intersex people deserve to live authentically and with purpose, not shamefully or alone.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Our motto is be seen with seen acronymically representing supported, embraced, educated, and networked.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

I think the most important part of that is embraced.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Because if I had just one person, just one single friend or community member to say, hey, there's nothing wrong with you, you don't need to be fixed, and your body is beautiful, I may not have hid like that for as long as I did.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

My work within the community has shown me that so many of us were told the same thing.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

You know, the other kids aren't going to understand.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Or maybe don't tell your partner about that until you have to.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Forcing an already marginalized person to hide a part of themselves, I think that's shameful.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

This city is built on diversity and inclusion, a shining beacon of a skyline that has welcomed people for centuries.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

Our laws should be just as welcoming.

Member of the Public - Jennifer Levine

For that reason, I ask the council to pass Intro 131, and thank you for your time and consideration.

Tiffany L. Cabán

Right on the dot.

Tiffany L. Cabán

Yeah.

Tiffany L. Cabán

I'm a pro.

Shahana K. Hanif

Thank you all so much for showing up today and for testifying.

Shahana K. Hanif

And I've just learned so much, not only from the bill that Councilmember Caban has put forward, and I'm so grateful that it's getting heard today.

Shahana K. Hanif

We're going to get it passed.

Shahana K. Hanif

But just learned so much from all of your testimonies.

Shahana K. Hanif

Proud CUNY graduate from Brooklyn College.

Shahana K. Hanif

I was a women's and gender studies major and an LGBTQ studies minor.

Shahana K. Hanif

So grateful that CUNY has the discipline on these issues and that we've got great educators who are leading the charge on these issues.

Shahana K. Hanif

I want to pass it to Councilmember McBond for her questions.

Tiffany L. Cabán

Thank you.

Tiffany L. Cabán

I have, yeah.

Member of the Public - Erika Lorshbough

Oh, I just apologize.

Member of the Public - Erika Lorshbough

We have one other person who was called up for this.

Member of the Public - Erika Lorshbough

So sorry.

Tiffany L. Cabán

Yeah, sure.

Tiffany L. Cabán

Yeah, please.

Member of the Public - Sherry Yvette Barnett

Thank you.