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Public Testimony

Alistair Henry-Idelson testifies for standalone intersex protections

New York City Council · Oct 16, 2026 · starts 3:26:56 · 3 min 22 sec

Alistair Henry-Idelson, a civil rights lawyer and trans person with a disability, supports Intro 131. He says intersex status and gender identity are different and explicit standalone protections help intersex people and those perceived as intersex.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

Thanks, all.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

The goal is to get...

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Apologize.

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No, you guys are fab, and these are all rock stars.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

So just thank you for the opportunity.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

Hey, everyone.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

Thank you so much for the opportunity to submit testimony.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

It's an honor.

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My name is Alistair Henry Idelson, and I live in Brooklyn.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

And I'm a trans person with an invisible, life-threatening physical disability.

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I want to thank all of my co-panelists and each of you for the effort, and everyone in this room, because I know it takes a lot to get us here.

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I'm speaking, of course, in support of Intro 131, and I've been a civil rights lawyer for more than two decades, most recently with the General Counsel's Office of the U.S.

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Department of Health and Human Services Civil Rights Division, where I was responsible for helping to ensure civil rights compliance in the health programs of the United States.

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Under the Biden administration.

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Before that, I was the legal director of Interact, the nation's largest intersex advocacy organization and a main power behind New York City's leading administrative recognition of this issue.

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So I first began working on this issue many years ago in law school, and I was just flabbergasted that

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no one was doing a sufficient job protecting this amazing, beautiful community that was experiencing ongoing horrific harms, what has been called a form of torture by the United Nations.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

As I got to learn more and saw the way intersex people were being treated, I became more convinced that explicit protection was necessary.

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And it's part of why Interact engaged with the Human Rights Commission on that crucial guidance.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

So thank you all for everyone here who helped make that happen.

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And part of the reason I'm here today is because that was so many years ago, and we're still seeing the same kind of harms.

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We're still saying the same kind of things, so more must be done.

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And particularly, as folks have said, when federal protections to help address this issue have been rolled back.

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And I know personally how challenging it was to get those passed at the federal level because I was, in fact, trying to get them passed.

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So, of course, we can and should be the first legislative body to make standalone protections explicit and permanent.

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And then just one other thing, intersex status and gender identity are, of course, different aspects of who a person is.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

And even in my many years of working with experienced and very intelligent attorneys and other folks, many people conflate being intersex with being trans or other.

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identities, other ways of being, and clear standalone protections helps not only this group, but also related groups

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and those who may not be intersex or, you know, other things, but who experience discrimination on the basis of perceived intersex status or perceived intersex traits.

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the serious uptick in gender panic, again, as other folks have talked about, this is just more important than ever.

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So basically, New York

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has done an amazing job so far thanks to so many people here, but more is necessary.

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So I really appreciate the chance to express support and also for your careful time and consideration.

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And I ask the council to pass intro 131.

Member of the Public - Alistair Henry-Idelson

Thank you so much.