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Menin returns to Devin Kim's firing and safety claims

New York City Council · Oct 16, 2026 · starts 0:39:47 · 58 sec

Menin says Castillo-Madrid's canned safety answers are belied by the firing of Devin Kim, president of the Center for AI Safety and an early SpaceX AI employee; Castillo-Madrid says she is not familiar with the details of his termination.

Julie Menin

And the other thing that I just want to say is that when you say you keep giving us this canned answer about safety, safety, safety,

Julie Menin

getting back to Devin Kim, his title was president of the Center for AI Safety.

Julie Menin

He was one of the early employees at SpaceX AI.

Julie Menin

It's just completely not believable that you are not.

Julie Menin

aware of the circumstances around his firing.

Member of the Public - Gabriela Castillo Madrid

I understand your frustration, Madam Speaker.

Member of the Public - Gabriela Castillo Madrid

Unfortunately, like the chairwoman said, there's a lot that I cover, and I want to make sure that I'm being as truthful as I can, and I answer the question with the facts that I know.

Julie Menin

But if he's the president of the AI safety, I don't understand how you could not be familiar with his termination.

Member of the Public - Gabriela Castillo Madrid

I'm not familiar with the details of why he's no longer in the company.