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Public Testimony

Philip White recommends full monthly Legionella reporting in support of Intro 1094

New York City Council · Oct 19, 2026 · starts 1:55:08 · 2 min 25 sec

Philip White, former manager of Vancouver's cooling tower registry, supports Intro 1094 and suggests requiring every monthly Legionella result to be reported, not only those at or above 10 CFU. He says full reporting verifies testing is happening, 10 CFU is the right threshold, and Vancouver reduced repeat Legionella results by 86% in four years through follow-up on repeated systems.

Lynn C. Schulman

Philip Stewart White.

Lynn C. Schulman

You may begin.

Member of the Public - Philip White

Hey, good morning.

Member of the Public - Philip White

So my name is Philip White.

Member of the Public - Philip White

I'm from Vancouver, Canada, where I co-designed and ran the City of Vancouver's Coolant Tower Registry for six years.

Member of the Public - Philip White

I'm now an independent consultant to government on building water safety.

Member of the Public - Philip White

I support Introduction 1094, and I would suggest one change.

Member of the Public - Philip White

Require every monthly result to be reported.

Member of the Public - Philip White

Not only those at or above 10 CFU.

Member of the Public - Philip White

A threshold-only rule tells you when there's a problem, and full reporting tells you the testing is actually happening.

Member of the Public - Philip White

And a missing report is in itself the signal.

Member of the Public - Philip White

You cannot enforce a testing requirement you cannot see.

Member of the Public - Philip White

10 CFU is the right threshold.

Member of the Public - Philip White

Vancouver's number from day one and the CDC's line for a poorly controlled tower.

Member of the Public - Philip White

At 10 CFU, something is amiss and the operator needs to look for the culprit.

Member of the Public - Philip White

A threshold by itself prevents nothing, though.

Member of the Public - Philip White

What reduced elevator results from repeat systems 86% in the city of Vancouver in four years was the follow-up.

Member of the Public - Philip White

We tracked the repeated systems and focused our efforts there.

Member of the Public - Philip White

They drove two-thirds of the citywide decline.

Member of the Public - Philip White

We didn't send an inspector to every number.

Member of the Public - Philip White

We sent one when the numbers repeated, and we sent them to look at the system, not just the water result.

Member of the Public - Philip White

In Vancouver, it was nearly always a

Member of the Public - Philip White

mechanical or an operator fault.

Member of the Public - Philip White

That's prevention, not reaction.

Member of the Public - Philip White

Finding out at 1000 CFU or after the outbreak versus knowing the sample was taken and reported.

Member of the Public - Philip White

You can't act on the number you never see.

Member of the Public - Philip White

So here I'm telling you that regulation works, Vancouver's program works, and we have the data to prove it.

Member of the Public - Philip White

In New York City, when a child's blood lead comes back at 3.5, you find the lead and the owner is ordered to remove it.

Member of the Public - Philip White

It used to be 15, a level where the damage is already irreversible.

Member of the Public - Philip White

10 is a 3.5 of coolant towers.

Member of the Public - Philip White

Find the fault and fix it.

Member of the Public - Philip White

You build the program around the system, not just the coolant tower, and your efforts will be rewarded.

Member of the Public - Philip White

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you so much.

Lynn C. Schulman

We really appreciate your testimony and you agreeing to do that today.

Lynn C. Schulman

And we'll be in contact with you, too, because we want to do something with this.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you so much.

Member of the Public - Philip White

Thanks.