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Public Testimony

Weth describes inhumane conditions and sleep deprivation

New York City Council · Oct 21, 2026 · starts 3:04:46 · 2 min 33 sec

Weth says there are no windows, rooms are nine by six feet, noise echoes, he had six months of sleep deprivation, says a lawsuit is forthcoming, and recommends a paid veteran staff member to report to the council and public.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

It's a nightmare.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

You want to hear about the conditions inside the facility, outside of the obvious ones that we all harp on, like the leaky roof and the kitchen?

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Yeah, we've thoroughly beaten those horses and those need to be addressed.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

How about the fact there are no windows in the facility?

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

It's a residence, right?

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Oh, there are windows that run around the top of the outside.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

That's not, it's not a living space.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

It's a warehouse or it was a manufacturing facility.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Poorly repurposed.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Those cells, that's a room for a human to live in?

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Are you kidding me?

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Nine by six?

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Yeah, Julie Wan did talk to me outside the facility and she, uh...

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Used some of the information that she gleaned from our conversation when she spoke to the press.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

She brought up the fact that ourselves were smaller than is allowable by law for New York State prisons.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Oh yeah, she just pulled that out of nowhere.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

She took that from me.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

I gave her the numbers, nine by six.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Great.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

She got a soundbite.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

She also used the term Dickensian to describe the conditions.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

To anyone who's not culturally up to speed,

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

That's a reference to The Wire, season five.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Scott Templeton, the lying reporter who fabricates a story to add to his own largesse, uses the term Dickensian when he's selling the story to his editor.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

His editor fawns over the term.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Oh, yes, emphasizes the Dickensian aspect.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Now, the whole point of that scene is to illustrate that politicians like or the people in charge like to sit there and verbally pat themselves on the back in their efforts while completely missing the point.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Dickensian indeed, and still no progress.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Yeah, Dickensian, rooms without windows and ceilings.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Do you know what the sound environment is like in a tin box like that?

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

You can hear everything within a 50-foot radius.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

It echoes.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

The specific issue that I had during my time there, I did not have one night of decent sleep in that facility.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

Six months straight of sleep deprivation.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

That's beyond inhumane.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

That's abusive.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

There's a lawsuit forthcoming because I have receipts.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

I contacted Julie Wan's office.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

I took a picture of the rules that I signed off.

Member of the Public - Matt Weth

I have receipts on all this, by the way.