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Wong questions Rudin on library, computers, and culinary school

New York City Council · Oct 21, 2026 · starts 2:41:32 · 4 min 3 sec

Wong asks about library and computer access; Rudin says the library is open 24-7 and flyers will be posted; Wong asks why the culinary school can use the kitchen but veterans cannot, and Rudin says there is no cap on veterans and the commercial kitchen is not for resident cooking.

Phil Wong

Three questions, yeah.

Phil Wong

Miss Jody Rudin?

Phil Wong

Yeah.

Phil Wong

You're based out of 125 Broad Street.

Phil Wong

Is that right?

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Yes.

Phil Wong

How often do you visit the Borden Avenue facility?

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Multiple times a year.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

It depends.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Some years I've been there a dozen times.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Some years fewer times.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

It varies.

Phil Wong

When was your last visit?

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Last night.

Phil Wong

Okay.

Phil Wong

Okay, so I have two questions.

Phil Wong

Can, like, when I was there with Council Member Julie Wan,

Phil Wong

There were residents there who told me they have no access to the computers and no access to the library.

Phil Wong

And there's a gentleman that walked out a couple minutes ago before you testified that they still have no access to the computers.

Phil Wong

Now, is my understanding that...

Phil Wong

The part of the contract is to have computers there so veterans could use them.

Phil Wong

So can you tell me why that they cannot, they have no access?

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Absolutely.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

And I appreciate your question.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

And we enjoyed what I think was an enormously productive relationship with Councilmember Holden.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

And we are ever grateful for his investments in the facility, including at the library.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

The library is open on a 24-7 basis.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

There may be some specific exceptions to that if there's a meeting or if we're hosting visitors.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

But in the ordinary course of business, it's open on a 24-7 basis.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

There have been a few things that you've said or that I've heard on the panel that just aren't true.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

And I would welcome a relationship where you're bringing those issues to us.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

We can figure out the source of the disagreement or misunderstanding and fix it immediately.

Phil Wong

So the residents now have free access to the library and the computers.

Phil Wong

Is that right?

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Yeah, absolutely.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

And hearing that this has been a source of misunderstanding, we'll post flyers just to clarify the hours.

Phil Wong

Okay.

Phil Wong

Finally, I raised the question before.

Phil Wong

Could you answer?

Phil Wong

How come the culinary schools could use the cooking facilities there but not the veterans?

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Yeah, thank you.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

This was another point I wanted to clarify, so I'm grateful for the question.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

So the culinary arts training program has cohorts of 20 people at a given time.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

That number is determined based on the size of the kitchen and how many people can comfortably fit.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

There is no cap on the number of veterans who can participate from Borden.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

If we had our druthers, all 20 would participate from Borden.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

In this current cycle, we don't have any veterans from Borden in the cohort.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

So we would love your support in drumming up interest.

Phil Wong

Now, my question was.

Phil Wong

When they say their cooking classes are not in session, how come the veterans have no access to the facility to cook their own food or eat or to heat up their own food because they are hungry?

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Yeah, so I think actually both Chair Hudson and our colleague from DSS, Sonia Russell, clarified it is not customary for people who live in shelters to access the commercial kitchen for their cooking use.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

It is incumbent upon us to provide them.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

three meals a day, consistent with the New York City food and nutrition standards.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

So I've never heard of a scenario where people living in the residence would access the commercial kitchen.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Now, we have heard feedback on, can we have an air fryer?

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Can we have more microwaves?

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

And that is something that we're working on bringing into the cafeteria so that people can have more autonomy around bringing in food, heating up food.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

But it's not traditional practice to let people gain access to the commercial kitchen where there's all sorts of mechanicals that they may or may not know how to use and would introduce, I think, health and safety concerns.

Phil Wong

Okay, thank you.

Phil Wong

I'll be in touch.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Yeah, I genuinely look forward to it.

Member of the Public - Jody Rudin

Thank you.

Phil Wong

Thank you, Chair.

Phil Wong

Thank you.

Crystal Hudson

Ms.

Crystal Hudson

Foster, thank you for your patience.