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Council Member Restler and Chair Menin Discuss Upcoming Legislation to Revamp Outdoor Dining

New York City Council · Apr 23, 2025 · starts 2:21:25 · 2 min 12 sec

Council Member Lincoln Restler and Chair Julie Menin discuss the need for new legislation to revamp the outdoor dining program and potentially transfer jurisdiction to a licensing agency.

Lincoln Restler

Less 70% fewer restaurants are operating today.

Lincoln Restler

Is that right?

Lincoln Restler

Could I just get a yes-no on that?

Margaret Forgioni

So 2600 are operating today as we speak.

Lincoln Restler

And you said a peak was 8,000.

Lincoln Restler

So we're talking about 2600.

Margaret Forgioni

And then we have a number of others that are in the process, and we have some who have dropped out of the process or are not eligible.

Margaret Forgioni

I just more to these numbers.

Margaret Forgioni

You need to dig into them a little bit.

Rick Rodriguez

Happy to dig in with the rate of from temporary to permanent.

Rick Rodriguez

Um the rate uh is similar to what Paris has, which had a pre-existing program as well.

Lincoln Restler

Uh beside the point of whatever happened in Paris.

Lincoln Restler

We know what we've done in New York City.

Lincoln Restler

We know that restaurants and and bars want this in New York City.

Lincoln Restler

We've seen how much great a success it is in New York City, and we've seen that this administration and this legislation killed the program.

Lincoln Restler

And we see only a small fraction of the number of restaurants and establishments are actually operating outdoor dining today.

Lincoln Restler

We've prioritize parking spots over having space for our bars and restaurants to be able to expand into our communities and make our streets more vibrant and dynamic, expand employment at our small businesses.

Lincoln Restler

This is not working.

Lincoln Restler

So I am working on legislation to totally revamp outdoor dining because I think it's a failure.

Lincoln Restler

I disagree with your assessment.

Lincoln Restler

My assessment is failure.

Lincoln Restler

And I think we really need to get to work on how to make this a success.

Lincoln Restler

Thank you.

Julie Menin

Thank you, Councilmember Ressler.

Julie Menin

And I just want to say I agree.

Julie Menin

I don't think you are here for part of my opening remark where I called it an unmitigated disaster.

Julie Menin

And I'm urging and I hope, yes, and and I do hope that in because I've got a number of LS requests to revamp it, too.

Julie Menin

I hope that you will consider this idea of transferring the program to DCWP, a licensing agency as opposed to a transit agency.

Julie Menin

I think a lot of the problems uh come from the fact that we need a licensing agency with a walk-in licensing center.

Julie Menin

DCWP has historic expertise and sidewalk cafe licenses.

Julie Menin

We certainly did not have these problems when that agency was doing that.

Lincoln Restler

You know, I I just will say I during the legislative process I thought DCWP was a more logical home.

Lincoln Restler

But you're welcome to continue those conversations as we go through our drafting process and would love to work with you together.

Lincoln Restler

And I think if DOT wants to own this program long term, we just need to see significant improvement.

Lincoln Restler

Thank you.

Julie Menin

Thank you.

Julie Menin

And I do want to ask one further question before I turn over to Councilmember Lewis.