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John Grimes Testimony: West Village Resident

New York City Council · Apr 23, 2025 · starts 3:22:05 · 2 min 39 sec

John Grimes, a 35-year resident of the West Village, testifies via Zoom to oppose any loosening of outdoor dining rules, citing noise, drunken behavior, and the lack of an environmental impact study.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Hello, uh, I'm John Grimes.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Uh, can you hear me?

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Sorry, I'm the first one to do that.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Yes, we can.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Thank you.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Great, great, thanks.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Uh, thank you.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

I am a 35-year resident of the West Village, and I have experienced the impact of the outdoor dining program firsthand.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Um, I actually agree with some of the comments that have been made about the program being an unmitigated disaster, but that is because in my view, the underlying premise of the program is critically flawed.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

While necessary during a pandemic, the pandemic is now over.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

What we have now remaining is an illegal giveaway of public land to the hospitality industry with very little payments, notwithstanding the comments on that.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

And without having done an environmental impact study that would take into account the impact on the environment, including the ambience environments, noise.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

No one has talked about the environment here, really, which is astounding to me.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Uh I am opposed to any change to the program that would loosen the rules or provide for year-round outdoor dining.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

From my personal experience, my quality of life has been severely harmed by this program and the associated noise and drunken behavior from the establishment of my immediate neighborhood.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

I live in a historic district and I'm required to keep my property looking as it did basically in the 19th century under the landmark laws, which I'm happy to do.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

In contrast, the sheds are mostly eyesores, and in my neighborhood are used for outdoor drinking, not outdoor dining.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

I heard some comments about limited seating, but seating is irrelevant if patrons are standing around and drinking, spilling out into the sidewalk.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

These sheds are not a solution for sidewalk crowding.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Instead, they contribute to it.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

I have made personally over a hundred complaints to 311 of the New York State Liquor Authority with no relief.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Party goes on outside my house, and until recently, year-round.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

I heard some interesting comments about the rules being based on bad actors, but in my experience, bad actors are allowed to proliferate.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

I also heard a lot of complaints about the new roadway setups that are supposed to be removable, but as the sheds are now going back up, we see they're the same enclosed structure, which, if a lot of proliferate year-round, your time has expired.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Thank you.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

And I oppose any loosening of the current rules.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

Thank you.

Member of the Public - John Grimes

And please.

Julie Menin

Next speaker, please.

Council Staff

You may begin.

Member of the Public - Kiana

Hi, uh, my name is Kiana.

Member of the Public - Kiana

I live on the Lower East Side, and I'm testifying today in favor of all outdoor dining accommodations, including sidewalk seating, roadside dining, and open streets, which are some of the only ways immunocompromised New Yorkers and other folks at high risk of complications from COVID and the flu can safely enjoy New York's restaurants.