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Abdurahim Sanginov (carriage owner's nephew) testifies opposing ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 6:26:56 · 2 min 13 sec

Abdurahim Sanginov, nephew of a carriage owner, testifies about his uncle funding his Rutgers education through the carriage business, describes families and children who love the horses, and asks the council to oppose the bill.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

Good afternoon, members of the council.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

My name is Abdurahim Sanginov, and today I'm representing my uncle, named John Sanginov, who has been a proud horse carriage owner in New York City for the last six years.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

So two years ago, I received a letter from the Rutgers University that I got accepted.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

But there was an obstacle in my way.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

My family couldn't provide the funds for my education.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

And my dream was looking like it flying away.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

And at the moment of darkness, my uncle said that he would do anything to put me in the school and help me achieve my dream.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

And there was a question before, how about American Dream?

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

I have American Dream.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

I want to go to college and study, and my uncle is helping me to do that.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

Currently, he has two beautiful horses, Bella and Champion.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

Every day he is telling me that tens of hundreds of people stop by his horse to take pictures.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

New Yorkers love horse carriages.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

A lot of children come to Central Park to take pictures with his horses, to look at them, to pet them, and to play with them.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

This is the picture of the champion, beautiful white horse that he loves and cares about.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

He's telling me a story.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

He told me to share the story with you.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

There is a lady, the resident of the New York City.

Lynn C. Schulman

You don't have that much time left, so you're going to have to either wrap it up, but go ahead.

Lynn C. Schulman

If the story is long, I can't do it.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

Yes.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

So the story about the lady, the resident of the New York City.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

Every day, she knows the schedule of the Bella, of another horse of my uncle.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

She brings her children to Central Park, and her children pray with Bella.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

You told about the people who don't want the horses in Central Park, but how about the voices of the people who want them in Central Park?

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

There are tons of hundreds of people who want to see their horses in Central Park.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

They are loved and taken care about.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

All of these horse owners that you see, all of them love their horses.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

Their horses are beautiful creatures.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

All of them are like family members to them.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

And today, I ask you to oppose the bill that would break a lot of families and would put a lot of people in trouble.

Member of the Public - Abdurahim Sanginov

Thank you very much.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

I'm sorry.

Lynn C. Schulman

We'll go back to you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Yeah.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay.

Lynn C. Schulman

Go for it.

Lynn C. Schulman

You'll start over.