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Brewer questions carriage owners on transition circumstances

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 3:36:11 · 1 min 57 sec

Brewer asks what circumstances would help members if the ban happens. McHugh says they're not interested in selling their land and want to continue providing carriage rides, disputing the real estate narrative.

Gale A. Brewer

Thank you very much.

Gale A. Brewer

I do believe, I've been to the stables years ago, and I do believe that the people who are with their horse do care about their horses.

Gale A. Brewer

Let me be clear on that.

Gale A. Brewer

The issue for me is this, I believe, is going to stop this industry.

Gale A. Brewer

You know, I'm just being realistic here.

Gale A. Brewer

So my question to the union or anybody else is, earlier we heard from one of the speakers that there is some interest from the owners of getting out of the business.

Gale A. Brewer

That was surprising to me.

Gale A. Brewer

So my question to you is, what circumstances, even though I know you are not interested in getting out of the business, what circumstances would you feel could be of assistance to your members if in fact this happens?

Gale A. Brewer

I know it's a hard question, but that is my question.

Member of the Public

A couple of occasions you have referenced there's big real estate here, and this is something that really rubs me and my other owners.

Member of the Public

Myself and 14 other people own the stable on 52nd Street.

Member of the Public

All of us are carriage medallion owners, and the other two stables are owned by people who own carriage medallions.

Member of the Public

And we bought our land because we wanted it and we needed it and we didn't buy it to sell it.

Member of the Public

And that is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way nowadays, especially since the whole rezoning took place.

Member of the Public

And our...

Member of the Public

is not to give up our land, ever.

Member of the Public

And that's, I don't know how many times I've heard about big real estate.

Member of the Public

We're not interested in big real estate.

Member of the Public

We are interested in providing carriage rides in Central Park, and we're not interested in being fobbed off with some stories, because the day you sell your land is the day you...

Member of the Public

Are finished.

Gale A. Brewer

I hear that, but there was a family apparently that is interested that we heard earlier.

Member of the Public

The family that's interested sold their stable 10 years ago.

Gale A. Brewer

So it was 10 years ago that they sold it?

Gale A. Brewer

Yes.

Gale A. Brewer

Okay, thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Councilmember Wilson.